All-Aircraft-Simulations

In defence of the fatherland I once again took an american bomber stream and some P51's. As you can see I got back! Somewhat mauled, and no confirmed kills. Some missions just don't go well....

how could you land this thing? half of your right wing is missing :roll:

oh come on thats the biggest bull picture that I have ever seen, what did you do strafe a landed Fw and take a pic of it after or what, we were not bory yesterday.

=RT=FlyinCircus Wrote:oh come on that's the biggest bull picture that I have ever seen, what did you do strafe a landed FW and take a pic of it after or what, we were not born yesterday.

Does it honestly matter? You don't have to make it so rude. "we were not born yesterday"? lol If you ever noticed that half the pictures on here are staged, so what difference does it make to you? Just enjoy the pic.

Although now that you mention it, what did really happen? Becasue I know you couldn't land that thing with a broken wing.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Who cares how it was done, it's a fun image :!: :wink:

Left engine full of holes/burning, on landing exploded?

Sorry to have to tell you guys, but the pic wasn't staged. Thats how the aeroplane was when I taxied up to the hangar. I lost the tail feathers due to gunnery from the bombers on my first (and only) pass, the wing panel was lost hitting the runway trying to avoid a pesky USAAF P51 that followed me down. Actually what I should have done was recorded the flight and took some screenshots afterward, but I didn't think of it - I'll certainly do that next time if this sort of thing happens again.

Incidentially - there's a real life case of an israeli F15 that had one wing shot off and flew back to base for a successful landing. The makers sent a team of investigators out there because they didn't believe it either.

The F-15 thing was a complete different thing. I've spoken to a an engineer about taht and he said that planes these days have aerodynamic fuselages as well, so its not just the wings that keep them up.

Early planes had no such structure. But its nice to know what happened.

It doesn't matter if the pic was staged or not, and the guy shouldn't have to explain his actions for gods sake..
Get a life some of you!.. This is supposed to be fun, not the Spanish inquisition..

AIRdomination Wrote:The F-15 thing was a complete different thing. I've spoken to a an engineer about taht and he said that planes these days have aerodynamic fuselages as well, so its not just the wings that keep them up.

Early planes had no such structure. But its nice to know what happened.

Some modern planes are designed that way. There were early aircraft designed to generate lift from a fuselage. You could probably name one or two yourself (and I'm not specifically including 'flying wings' that don't have a fuselage structure). It is possible to achieve a measure of lift from almost any fuselage. I used to do just that in steep turns. It isn't much, but it means you don't have to rip the wings off to maintain height. You could argue it was the thrust line that was helping - you'd be right - but every little bit helps.

I did that also some time ago (don't remember which plane and how much of my wing got ripped off), but I could only correct the spin, I don't think I would be able to land that one-winged plane.

The problem is that whilst its possible to stay airborne (either luck or good piloting) the aircraft is unstable in that configuration, so any control input or aerodynamic deflection, turbulence, torque, or whatever, will send the plane into an irrecoverable spiral dive. Sometimes you're just better off bailing out. Aircraft can be replaced, pilots can't.

I've never done this with IL2, but way back in Red Baron days I had my SE5 catch fire. I was fairly low anyway, so I swooped down above a river and jumped out around 10' altitude without a parachute - since the generals wouldn't let me fly with one. I was astonished to find I'd survived and returned to combat after a spell in hospital.

Talking about this sort of thing, I notice how bloodthirsty AA gunners are in IL2. They always continue firing at you when you're dangling under the silk. I wouldn't have thought this was common practice in WW2.

Bailing out in occupied territory could be a risky business.. AA teams would have other priorities and it would be more important for them to bring down more enemy aircraft.
However, to anyone who could carry a weapon, you would be fair game to small arms fire.. Pissed off soldiers, civilians you had just bombed etc might have a go.
In real terms, you would be a better catch with a high intelligence value if you were captured and interogated, rather than killed.

Trooper117 Wrote:This is supposed to be fun, not the Spanish inquisition..

But, But, But TROOPER.... Nobody Expects the Spanish Inquisition!

nuk nuk nuk :wink:

the ace pilot (forget the name) of this A5M "Claude" made it back to his base after collided with a chinese Polikarpov during the early stages of war in China...

he was later posted to Rabaul flying the zero but were shot down at his fourth mission or something like that