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Timing of flame, smoke and bomb's craters .... - LAL_RONE - 16.11.2007

Hi everybody !

I find that timings of flame, smoke and bomb's craters are very wrong in game.

For exemple :
1. a truck is destroying. A flame appear during 5 seconds, and a smoke during 10 secondes ... We could double this time ?
2. a plane is crashing. A flame and smoke appears during 20 minutes ! It's too long. In WW2 a aircraft breaked itself, but don't burn during 20 minutes with a big black smoke like the game !
3. When you drop bomb on ground, a crater appears. But it wear off quickly ... too quickly

I know that this effect could make heavy the Work Process PC, and it won't be a good idea to let these effects endlessly. But it will be interresting to adjust these timings like this, for example :
- flame and smoke because of destruction object (truck, house ...) --> 1 minute
- flame and smoke aircraft crashing --> 3 minutes
- bomb's craters --> 20 minutes

What do you mean about this ? And someone know if it's possible ?

I hope I am clear, otherwise I am sorry .... my english isn't so good !!! :?


- elephant - 16.11.2007

I aproove :!:


- fabianfred - 16.11.2007

as i said here..
(The link is inoperative)

I would like the craters to last the whole mission

and would love longer ship sinking times and smoke from vehicles destroyed too...but I agree...the long black smoke columns of destroyed a/c are too unrealistic


- RAF_Magpie - 17.11.2007

would make online play a lot more fun - take an A20, and those parachute bombs... fly down the runway.... fill it full of pot-holes Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin


- lowfighter - 17.11.2007

Completely agree!
It's possible I think, only I haven't found the right files. Look into files of type ".eff". There's a couple of smoke .eff files (in the 3do folder and also in the com folder). All these eff have a finishtime parameter and a livetime parameter, also a size parameter. By trial and error we might find which smoke .eff files to modify. I picked such a file some time ago, changed parameters, smoke duration and aspect changed but not as I wished so i think it was not exactly the right .eff file to change.


- uf_josse - 17.11.2007

Found something, testing.....

Changing smoke color for trains, duration for wreckage smoke and so on.... at this time, 3 min for cars ....... testing for muche more time.


- PA_Willy - 17.11.2007

uf_josse Wrote:Found something, testing.....

Changing smoke color for trains, duration for wreckage smoke and so on.... at this time, 3 min for cars ....... testing for muche more time.

Good luck!!


- fabianfred - 17.11.2007

I tried all day yesterday to find the smoke from the crashed planes...but nothing I could find worked


- spud - 17.11.2007

RAF_Magpie Wrote:would make online play a lot more fun - take an A20, and those parachute bombs... fly down the runway.... fill it full of pot-holes Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Cept parafrags shouldn't damage a runway, they are frag bombs to shread planes and other soft targets.

We need some parademos Smile

tater


- RAF_Magpie - 17.11.2007

or a low-level pass in a B-29, droping its load of 20x1000 pounders Big Grin

Definatly the crater life extension would be good Smile


- fabianfred - 17.11.2007

it would make a DF map a bit more interesting for me
I've always preferred co-ops whereas Df is just like a free-for-all

giving the bombers a useful job to deny use of enemy airfield and fighters to escort them or stop the enemy

perhaps the spawn points could be put 'Off-limits' for cratering

but once a map was 'won' by one side... just start a new one


- uf_josse - 17.11.2007

So, now, wrekage of tanks or vehicules have smoke during 2 min 15 (not able to do more, sorry).

Mail sent to Hippy Wink

Changed also color of smoke for trains.... (dark grey just over chemney, then very light gray....

I prefer.


- fabianfred - 17.11.2007

great uf_josse..

can you find the one for aircraft crashes and reduce the time of that to 5 minutes


- lowfighter - 18.11.2007

That's nice Josse, thanks, I'll use it!
Which parameters did you change, and why were you unable to obtain more than 2 minutes?
And I agree too with Fred, that plane smoke lasting forever is pretty annoying, would be something to reduce it's duration.


- uf_josse - 18.11.2007

Don't found (or perhaps really searched) for the plane, will search more Wink

For the cars, trains and vehicules, played with effects/amokes/cardyingfire, cardyingsmoke and so on.... with timings......

played with livetime of effects and frequency of repetition..... don't know why when increasing more and more the parameters, i have no more duration.... :oops: