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[MOD] B-17 Visual Mods *update v1.1* - BomberBoy - 29.01.2009
Since I now have something for folks to download, I'm starting this thread in the Beta downloads section.
The original thread is here:
http://allaircraftsimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11298
New 1.1 versions for B-17E, F posted 2/4/09
v1.1 can be unzipped (installed) over v1.0.
B-17E v1.1 beta
http://www.mediafire.com/?2xbz2t46zlt
B-17E "PTO" version, "summer" skin
![[Image: B-17E_PTO.jpg]](http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/jarink/Skins/B-17E_PTO.jpg)
B-17E "hack"
![[Image: B-17E_Hack.jpg]](http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/jarink/Skins/B-17E_Hack.jpg)
B-17F v1.1 beta
http://www.mediafire.com/?0g0xmfdrlzs
**added 03/04/09**
New, completely blank B-17F(Multi1) default skins.
http://www.mediafire.com/?zj3fma9im0g
B-17F "USA" version, "summer" skin
![[Image: B-17F_Summer.jpg]](http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/jarink/Skins/B-17F_Summer.jpg)
B-17G v1.0 beta
http://www.mediafire.com/?3dgygwqcatb
B-17G "USA" version, "summer" skin
![[Image: B-17G_Summer.jpg]](http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/jarink/Skins/B-17G_Summer.jpg)
To use any of these mods, simply unzip the contents into your IL2\MODS folder. If you have another mod that makes the B-17 flyable, then you'll need to move the contents of 3do\plane to the same folder as that mod. The in-game originals are still used if you choose a nationality other than USAAF, USN or USMC.
I am working on some other variants, so these are certainly not the final versions!
There's still a ton of things that I'd like to change on the B-17 models, but I don't know how to do the 3D modeling and modifying armament, etc (new slot work). If anyone is willing to help, please let me know!
- Failure - 29.01.2009
Epic stuff.
Finally, can make some realistic missions, and beat the hell out of B17's.
Thanks sir, you just added another brick into AAA's wall, that will make IL 2 even more awesome.
Just tried it out. It is fantastic.
I will get those .tga skins to bmp and use them as pick-able skin. So I can have silver B 17 with Polish markings.
It's fantastic, got to say it again!
- ptg - 29.01.2009
Absolutely fantastic! The B-17 is easily my favourite aircraft. I think it has been overlooked so far, as there were definitely a few bugs on the models, but they are so familiar and previously unflyable. Very nice to see someone lavish some effort on what is such a beautiful and iconic WWII plane. Many thanks.
Almost forgot to mention, is there a request out for an accurate B-17 cockpit?
- ROSOBORONEXPORTCORP - 29.01.2009
Say, have you considered making one of the nation variants still have the Sperry turret? This should be possible, although you might need Java support from AAA.
- ptg - 29.01.2009
Ah, yes, we lost the Sperry on the 'E'. Any chance of having our cake and eating it? :wink:
Still a great job though.
- Doolittle81 - 29.01.2009
I'm confused...There are no unit markings on the B17's in the Pics.
- ptg - 29.01.2009
Quote:I'm confused...There are no unit markings on the B17's in the Pics.
Isn't that how it should be? In QMB and by default, all a/c should be devoid of unit markings unless you select them? Only national insignia should display - as in the pics above...
- AIRdomination - 29.01.2009
I want variety.. and although this mod is good... I prefer the old turret on the stock B-17E
- ptg - 29.01.2009
Hmm, well I guess it would be nice to have both - maybe one with the Sperry and one with the Bendix - one maybe replacing the 'hack'?
For the moment, the Sperry is more accurate if you consider the production run. The Bendix turret was replaced by a Sperry ball turret starting with the 113th B-17E built, out of a total of 512 B-17Es built by Boeing in 1941 and 1942. So a Sperry ball turret was more common by 286 B17Es (399 Vs 113 of 512.)
- BomberBoy - 29.01.2009
> I will get those .tga skins to bmp and use them as pick-able skin. So I can have silver B 17 with Polish markings.
I will be releasing .psd templates soon for all three, so you can easily make your own!
> Say, have you considered making one of the nation variants still have the Sperry turret?
> I want variety.. and although this mod is good... I prefer the old turret on the stock B-17E
The old versions of each plane are still there and can be used at the same time as these mods. For each model of B-17 there are 2 "slots" that the game uses; (USA) and (Multi1). If you use a mod in the (USA) folder, the (Multi1) folder still uses the original model and skins (or vice versa). I will probably make another PTO version that uses the old remote turret with the new windows/gun positions as there were several that served in the Phillipines and SW Pacific (most notably Swamp Ghost) that were armed that way.
> I'm confused...There are no unit markings on the B17's in the Pics.
That was intentional since these are default skins. Once I release the templates, it's really easy to make your own defaults marked any which way you'd like!
- BomberBoy - 29.01.2009
ptg Wrote:Hmm, well I guess it would be nice to have both - maybe one with the Sperry and one with the Bendix - one maybe replacing the 'hack'?
For the moment, the Bendix is more accurate if you consider the production run. The Bendix turret was replaced by a Sperry ball turret starting with the 113th B-17E built, out of a total of 512 B-17Es built by Boeing in 1941 and 1942. So a Sperry ball turret was more common by 286 B17Es (399 Vs 113 of 512.)
See above; you can have both!
![[Image: sperry-remoteserials.jpg]](http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/jarink/sperry-remoteserials.jpg)
Actually, the remote turret on B-17Es was made by Sperry. Bendix made the remote turrets used on B-25s. The key difference is that the Bendix had the sight inside the turret while the Sperry's was in a separate blister.
Check out this highly informative thread on the issue at the Warbird Information Exchange:
http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=25606&start=0
- ptg - 30.01.2009
Ah, so they were both Sperrys! I knew the later chin turret was definitely a Bendix, but also, so I thought was the remote belly turrets on the 'E'! Well you learn something new every day - very interesting thread - thanks for the link!
Because I'm doing a fresh install of all the mods I hadn't got round to installing this mod yet - I didn't realise the old machines were still there too, that's very good! Thanks again for this wonderful mod.
- TH0R - 30.01.2009
Nice job Jarink, very cool.
I replied in the DBS forum with some questions. May I request that you take a look.
You might have a 3D modeler interested in helping out there.
- SkyHigh - 30.01.2009
I cannot download the B-17F: is it my own fault or has anyone else had this trouble? :?
- ptg - 30.01.2009
Quote:I cannot download the B-17F: is it my own fault or has anyone else had this trouble?
It was fine for me, but I can't download the B-17E! Seems to be a bit flakey d/l site.