Bf-109E's and F's missing canopy bar in external view - Printable Version

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Bf-109E's and F's missing canopy bar in external view - dFrog - 18.12.2009

Here is the small mod that adds the canopy "missing" bar to E's and F's in external view. According photographs some planes had simple sliding window panels and some had solid bars like these.

http://www.mediafire.com/?1towwzczngz

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- Skunkmeister - 18.12.2009

?

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- elephant - 18.12.2009

Not historical... :-?

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- Kukulo - 18.12.2009

What is not historical?

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- Metatron - 18.12.2009

Nice, but maybe you should make it thinner and white, because the vertical support as you present it is more a feature of the Bf-109G welded canopy frame.

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- elephant - 18.12.2009

The Es and Fs didn't have inner canopy framing...
Only a bit of window overlap and a handle to open the window as it shows in the above pic.
This feature is portrayed fine by Canon in E-1, E-3s Mods (external view).
this would have been historical for other Es and Fs... :wink:

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- Dudok22 - 18.12.2009

Its historical
some Es and Fs had that look :
E


F

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- Metatron - 18.12.2009

Without looking at references that last photo looks suspiciously like a G model

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- II./JG27_Rich - 18.12.2009

Always use nothing but photos when checking for this kind of thing. I wouldn't go by the profile.

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- II./JG27_Rich - 18.12.2009

HEY..That blue JG26 109 is our SOW 109E 3....cool



http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/bf1090001.jpg

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- nzwilliam - 18.12.2009

Metatron Wrote:Without looking at references that last photo looks suspiciously like a G model

+1

I'd put money on it that it's an early G model.

Some E models do seem to have it though, the Bf 109E-7/TROP in the photos here certainly does http://www.strijdbewijs.nl/top/p/me109.htm

As for the 109-F, perhaps you could make it a very fine/semi transparent line like on the early Emil photo Skunkmeister posted? It looks like overlapping glass to me. Probably slides open.

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- elephant - 18.12.2009

nzwilliam Wrote:the Bf 109E-7/TROP in the photos here certainly does http://www.strijdbewijs.nl/top/p/me109.htm

I don't think it does, actually...
The pilot is flying-posing for the camera, with the window slided all the way back.
What you see as a strut is just the edge of the two glass pieces together against the sun... :wink:

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- Dudok22 - 19.12.2009

I found that photo on this page http://www.adlertag.de/bilder/gallery.htm as F model :-?

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- elephant - 19.12.2009

Have a look here also:
http://www.messerschmitt-bf109.de/displ ... nummer=780
Definately a G model for me...
Look at those small intakes on the cowling and the shape of the wheel wells...
Not to mention the windshield and canopy :wink:

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- Guest - 19.12.2009

Dudok: That's a Gustav. The two small little intakes on the cowling right where the propellor reduction mechanism is gives it away.


I don't doubt that some of the later Fs had them but the Emils is a bit doubtful. A lot of drawings are wrong and museum pieces aren't always accurate (the amount of times I've looked at photos of 'Erla' G-10s, just to find out they are really WNF variants with standard cowling). Try and find some wartime photos to double check.

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