WIP KI-44 - Printable Version

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- ojcar - 28.01.2009

Better two images (look at the cowlings). This is a Model I
http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=6516aa1.jpg

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- Radoye - 28.01.2009

You mean:

(model I)

and


(model II)


Other differences that i notice on these two pics (keeping in mind that drawings are not necessarily the most reliable source of info) is a bigger rudder on model II and a tube/telescope gunsight on model I...

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- ojcar - 28.01.2009

Errrr......thank you for posting my drawings. I'm not very good in these things.....
About the rudder, I don't know. My books don't say anything about changes in rudder between model I and II.
All Ki-44 I had telescopic gunsight, but there were Ki-44II with telescopic or reflector sight. I have read today that was planned to build all with reflector sight, but because shortage, some were built with the old telescopic sight. I suppose there were field mods as well (conservative pilots asking for their old sights, and the more modern removing the telescopic and installing the reflector)

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- Saburo Sakai - 28.01.2009

ojcar Wrote:Well, after carefully watching your blueprints and W.I.P., I think it's in fact a II model, not an I one.
The II model had a "box" under the cowling (in the chin of the plane). The first production model had no "box" (sorry for my English). The first blueprint you used said "Ki-44 II" also....



The "box" I was talking about is the oil scoop

i think you will be happy to know that the plans stefan is working from are the 44-II version

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- ojcar - 29.01.2009

Yes, as I said, it's my fav IJAAF plane. I'm crazy about flying it over Burma (those Spitfires are vastly better than poor old Ki-43), or making an What if mission trying to intercept the Enola Gay....

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- walter_solito - 29.01.2009

In the first photo we see a prototype , the oil cooler was put under the cow from first production batch; I haven't source about dimentional variation from I to II (only the III had wider wing).

-Profile and Aircam source

walter

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- ojcar - 29.01.2009

From the book "Profile Aircraft 255 Nakajima Ki-44 Shoki (Tojo)" it seems that the under cowling oil cooler was from Ki-44 Ib. But on Aircam 25 "Nakajima Ki-44 Shoki Ia, Ib, Ic/IIa, b, c in Japanese Army Air Force service" says (in a photo note): "Oil scoop was an identification feature of Model 2". So, this is not very clear, but there are other differences between I and II: The II had a streghtened landing gears and retractable tail wheel.

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- walter_solito - 30.01.2009

ojcar Wrote:From the book "Profile Aircraft 255 Nakajima Ki-44 Shoki (Tojo)" it seems that the under cowling oil cooler was from Ki-44 Ib. But on Aircam 25 "Nakajima Ki-44 Shoki Ia, Ib, Ic/IIa, b, c in Japanese Army Air Force service" says (in a photo note): "Oil scoop was an identification feature of Model 2". So, this is not very clear, but there are other differences between I and II: The II had a streghtened landing gears and retractable tail wheel.

In Aircam isn't specyfied the presence of the oil cooler in model I but is specified at the end of the book the production quantity of those model:

Ki44 - Prototype - 4 (one of them with countra-rotating spinner)
Ki44KAI - Prototypes - 6
Ki44Ia - 9 - (by modification of the previous prototype , I think without the one with contra-rotating spinner)
Ki44Ib and Ic - 40 - no distinction from the type

I haven't find photo evidence about prototype or first butch in China but I continue the research!!!

Cheers

walter

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- ojcar - 30.01.2009

It's very interesting, but difficult, because sometimes, different books says different things.....
Nevertheless, only 50 early Ki-44 were produced (both pre-series and Ki-44 Ia,b and c). 1.172 Ki-44 II and 3 Ki-44 III were produced. Saburo says "our" Ki-44 is a Ki-44 II. I think the same (retracting tailwheel) watching the drawings. And I think this is good!!!!!!

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- walter_solito - 31.01.2009

YES!!!!

This Ki44 is very very very good!!!!

Cheers

walter

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- peebles - 17.02.2009

I am bumping your Shoki back to the front,we need it,it was the one major fighter that saw service with the JAAF that never made it into the game,please keep up the good work,i'm drooling over the thought of blasting a few B29's with the KI44!Everyone jump in and post to encourage him!

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- walter_solito - 21.02.2009

Hi!

Any news about this nice baby?

Cheers

walter

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- ojcar - 07.03.2009

Bump! Any news or updates of this beauty?

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- peebles - 07.03.2009

this is among my top 3 wips i am waiting for!

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- FANATIC MODDER - 08.03.2009

I am waiting this plane a lot too.

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