Chose a JAPANESE bomber! I will build it! [VOTE IS ENDED]

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- rossmum - 21.07.2009

Can't help but think we ought to hold another vote first, narrowing it down to "served in major combat role" or "big shiny thing with 400 machine guns". I've nothing against the latter, but I think the former should be the priority and I expect that if it was narrowed down to those two choices, a lot of the votes would swing in the former's favour. Having so many actual combat AC against two what-ifs isn't really what I'd call a reliable result.

- Fusek - 21.07.2009

rossmum Wrote:Can't help but think we ought to hold another vote first, narrowing it down to "served in major combat role" or "big shiny thing with 400 machine guns". I've nothing against the latter, but I think the former should be the priority and I expect that if it was narrowed down to those two choices, a lot of the votes would swing in the former's favour. Having so many actual combat AC against two what-ifs isn't really what I'd call a reliable result.

- philhl - 21.07.2009

there will be always a next time ...

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prepare you for 30.000 horse power! and of course a next vote next month!

- WOEI - 21.07.2009

Dude, when you started this thread I thought in my selfish arrogance, 'here goes another noob', and awaited something horrible made in MS Paint. I think I couldn't have been more wrong in my skepticism Big Grin

! I wish you all the best luck in modeling this behemoth! Just a question; Are you planning an interior model (i.e. Cockpit and Gunners position) for this beast?

- philhl - 21.07.2009

I guess i will not built a new cockpit for this plane, because there are NO references for it! The new B-29 cockpit looks equal. i may ask to use and modify this instead.

and thank you for your nice wishes Smile

- XB-49 - 21.07.2009

Looking good. Big Grin

For the different positions, I suggest using Ranwers' B-29 cockpit with a modified framework, Japanese gauges and a 20mm nose gunner. The top turret from a B-17 with two 20mm machine guns instead of 50 cals. and a G4M1 tail turret with no framework. Like KG10 I didn't expect results but man I was dead wrong. :lol: Fuselage looks great! But however I believe that the wings are too thin and the engines too large. As seen in the blueprint below.

http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Files/2-A ... Fugaku.htm

Better Info: http://www.j-aircraft.org/xplanes/hikoki_files/g10.htm

400 strafing machine guns is probably a typo. And even if it were true firing all those guns would probably cause a massive FPS reduction. What are you thinking about in terms of bomb armament? With the ability to carry an incredible 44,092lbs of bombs (that means 1336 15kg bombs, or 40 500kg bombs, 22 2000lbs American bombs, 8 5000lbs Russian FAB bombs, 3 12,000lbs Tallboy bombs, 2 22,000lbs Grand Slams, 4 Little boy's and 4 Fat Men Confused

hock: ) are you going to include some fictional "super bombs" as well? Bombs like these would have probably been used, although not in large numbers when hitting targets like New York for maximum damage.

Edit: I seem to have forgotten that you may not be able or want to model bombs and super bombs are rather far fetched. :oops: So I'd like to change my question to: Do you (and the public) think that such bombs are plausible enough to be made?

- XB-49 - 21.07.2009

philhl Wrote:next vote next month!

Isn't that a bit too soon? :???: But anyway what have you got in mind for your next project?

philhl Wrote:prepare you for 30.000 horse power!

To be precise it's 24,600hp (4,100hp each) from six Nakajima Ha-505 (or Ha-54), 36-cylinder radials powering 4 blade props (steal them from the B-29). :lol:

I suggest taking sounds from either one of these aircraft.

Bristol Brabazon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miRV-SgYx7Q Good sounds from 7:36 onwards.

Convair B-36: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRxkYmfcX28 Good sounds from 3:10 onwards

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- philhl - 22.07.2009

Quote:While the project was conceived by Nakajima head Chikuhei Nakajima, Kawanishi and Mitsubishi also made proposals for the Fugaku. The Nakajima design had straight wings and contra-rotating four-blade propellers; the Kawanishi design had elliptical wings and single four-blade propellers.

I think thats the Kawanishi design:

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You are right XB-49 the engines are a bit too big. That must caused by the great none color blueprints i have to use Wink

The wings appear thin, but this is due to bad smoothing groups, which I already fixed. The engines are just "prototypes" of the prototyp ...

Quote:To be precise it's 24,600hp (4,100hp each) from six Nakajima Ha-505 (or Ha-54), 36-cylinder radials powering 4 blade props

Where do you get this information?

And thank you for the sounds!

- XB-49 - 22.07.2009

My info is from here: http://www.j-aircraft.org/xplanes/hikoki_files/g10.htm

I found them in the a "Axis experimental" link in this post: (The link is inoperative) Chaoic16's threads are info-finding motherloads. Big Grin

Apparently due to the inavalibility of the Nakajima Ha-505 engine (made up of 4 6 cylinder rotary engines sandwiched together) the project went ahead with the possibly underpowered Ha-50 engine (2 11 cylinder rotaries sandwiched together). And by the way since the props are four blade contra-rotating propellors similar to the Brabazon. so I suggest (slightly modified) sounds should be taken from that plane. The landing gear from the Brabazon with the outer two main wheels to be jettisoned to save weight. Transport and "strafer" versions when retain theirs as they would be needed for safe landings with a full cargo bay.

[Image: Brabazon.jpg]

Remember, the blisters on the sides of the aircraft DO NOT contain guns. they are for observation for the navigator or radioman.

Edit: Since it's WIP you might want to consider moving it to the WIP-Beta section and the Tu-95 may another sound source. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGSAXiMJzl0

hmmm - Albert Von Grewe - 23.07.2009

Hm, I don't like unreal world...

- Dynamo11 - 23.07.2009

I sadly never voted in the original poll (which I knew I should have), but I'm glad you are doing this
beast of a machine.

Here's hoping it'll be as formidable as it looks!!!

- Widowmaker - 24.07.2009

Jure_502 Wrote:Oh no. This little light that shines to new JPN aircraft, to make some intense battles of PTO, the light goes to aircraft that didn't do even a little harm to enemy's army. Really a big shame.

But nevermind, let's satisfy child's imagination, but, will it ever end?

- 343KKT_Sakai - 25.07.2009

Yokosuka D4Y Suisei (Comet) "Judy"

- Bee - 25.07.2009

343KKT_Sakai Wrote:Yokosuka D4Y Suisei (Comet) "Judy"

It's your lucky day...

viewtopic.php?t=15909&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75

There are so many rare and interesting types in the Japanese air forces. I'm very grateful to the Tainan group for not wasting their talents
on rough approximations of make believe aircraft.

- Salmo - 26.07.2009

Sorry I missed the vote. A shame the Nakajima G10N1 Fugaku won because this aircraft never actually saw service. Would have prefered any of the early-mi9d war Japanese bombers instead.