IL-2 Sturmovik: Me109 and AHS Mods by HunInTheSun aka Vike - Printable Version

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- HunInTheSun - 16.12.2007

Thanks ROne.

I search some infos about the different nationalities which used the G4:


Finland: NO G4 used.

According to these sites,there were only G2/G6/G8 and G14 provided to Finland for about 160 Messerschmitt.

- http://ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2000/ ... 109_01.htm

- http://www.sci.fi/~fta/me-fin-1.htm



Slovakia: Yes they did.

Jan Reznak,a famous Slovak 32 victories Ace.He flown on Me109-G4.

- http://www.flickr.com/photos/farinihous ... 114386705/
- http://membres.lycos.fr/asduciel/reznak.htm



Hungary:

Not enough info. :?
I only found a model about an Hungarian G4 "V7 + 51",but i need something more solid HELP! :!:

- http://www.e-tropolis.co.uk/ProductDeta ... de=AG+C-84

ballenato Wrote:Why not use K4 Engine cowling for G10?, technically was the same engine under (605D). So i think is more historically correct k4 than G2.

[b]"Erla-manufactured G10s are the most misidentified ones, and have been often referred as G10/AS in the past. Firstly, they did not use the fuselage

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- ballenato - 16.12.2007

I know quite well 109 production line issues, and about G10/AS engine myth. G2 cowling is totally different shape than Erla cowling. Where do you gonna put Mg131?, As you know AS and D 109's, because larger supercharger Mg bulges were refined, so you have a totally different shape from G2. Thats what i meat.

I think an image will explain better




Thinkk its better use K4/G10 original cowling for the right curved-outlined side, and make a new texture for the left squared-outlined side (as i can see on the shots).
Regards

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- Hunin - 16.12.2007

That is impossible to do ballenato.

I think Hun is very well aware that the sollution is not 100 % perfect.
But I very much appreciate it nonetheless.

It conveys the elegance and overall proportion of the Erla G-10 quite well.
I love it.

Only one question left - when will you release it?

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- HunInTheSun - 16.12.2007

ballenato Wrote:Thinkk its better use K4/G10 original cowling for the right curved-outlined side, and make a new texture for the left squared-outlined side (as i can see on the shots).

Unfortunately,i cannot separate elements of the engine hood.I wish i could take a normal cowl for the right side then a flat one for the left,but it's not possible.I must either take an entire G10/K4 engine hood,or a G2 one.


BTW,let me explain for what reason i choose the G2 hood,which is indeed not totally similar to the real Erla hood.I'll do a comparison:


Me109-G10 Erla

Using the G2 hood:

Pro:
It provides a flat left panel.
It provides the correct harmonisation between the MG position and the compressor intake.(see the two screens below)

Contra:
The right panel is flat as well,while the real Erla hood had this side curved.
The MG furrows are a bit too tight.

G10-Erla with our ingame G2 hood:


G10-Erla drawing final layout as IRL:





Using the G10/K4 Hood:

Pro:
The MG furrows are all OK.
The right panel of the engine hood is correctly curved.

Contra:
The harmonisation between the MG position and the compressor intake is wrong (see screens below and compare with the two above).
The left panel is curved too,that is dramatically wrong concerning the Erla-built G10s.
The overall apparence of the hood obtained appears too banal/standard for such an exceptionnal aircraft.

G10-Erla with our ingame G10/K4 hood:


Stock/standard G10 drawing as IRL:




So,knowing all that,what would be really the best final choice? :?:

BTW,i still need to know if the Royal Hungarian Air Force used Me109-G4 during WW-II

Hunin Wrote:That is impossible to do ballenato.

I think Hun is very well aware that the sollution is not 100 % perfect.
But I very much appreciate it nonetheless.

It conveys the elegance and overall proportion of the Erla G-10 quite well.
I love it.

Only one question left - when will you release it?

Thanks Hunin 8)

I'll made a release if MrJolly is OK,and moreover,at the time i'll get this information:

Did the RHAF have Me109-G4 !? :!: :?: :lol:

Then i would make a G4 for every nationality ingame for a correct G2 replacement!

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- Uther - 16.12.2007

Would only people with the soundmod see this G4 version online?
Or would it just look like a normal G2 if they dont have the mod?

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- Jump_Pilot - 16.12.2007

RGAF_JESTER Wrote:most full cockpit server do not allow for mod usage anyway so its not much of an issue

Because most of those servers aren't using the CRT=2 so that those with different OS can still play. It's an unfair advantage like a lot of mods here. The best solution is to replace the 109Z. That would solve all.

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- Uther - 16.12.2007

Jump_Pilot Wrote:

RGAF_JESTER Wrote:most full cockpit server do not allow for mod usage anyway so its not much of an issue

Because most of those servers aren't using the CRT=2 so that those with different OS can still play. It's an unfair advantage like a lot of mods here. The best solution is to replace the 109Z. That would solve all.

As Hunin said above,if he did that ,the plane would have the FM of the 109Z.Now THAT would be a cheat.

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- Hunin - 16.12.2007

I didn't that - that was Hun himself. :lol:
Darn.
Those name familiarity even confuses me

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- RAF_Magpie - 16.12.2007

Is this really anymore of a 'cheat' than say, a P-51-D with a Mirror?

Is it really anymore of a 'cheat' than say, a Spit Mk-9 with a K-14/Gyro sight?

No. I dont think so.

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- Brophmeister - 16.12.2007

Of course it isn't a cheat. All it does is change the outside appearence. Weapons and FM are not touched.

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- Daimler - 16.12.2007

What guns will be there in this G10 E . . . from G2 like this hood ??? 1 x 20 and 2 x 7,92 mm ?

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- Guest - 16.12.2007

Great work HunInTheSun, can't wait to ad them to the Luftwaffe arsonal

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- I/JG54_Gringo - 17.12.2007

Nice mods you have there dude.
I dream to have G-4 in IL-2 from a long time.Anyway,is it possible to add them like new planes?
Example:We'll have the G-2 model,and the G-4 too.I want to have the G-2 model as well.The same question is for the rest of the planes.
Pls make them being additional planes in the planeset,not to replace the other old ones.

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- Brophmeister - 17.12.2007

Mr Jolly, please hurry! I can't keep holding my breath much longer! hock:

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- RAF_Magpie - 17.12.2007

Brophmeister Wrote:Of course it isn't a cheat. All it does is change the outside appearence. Weapons and FM are not touched.

Indeed it does not change the WL/FM/DM, BUT I was replying, in regards to this:

LAL_RONE Wrote:Interresting, but if I use your G4 (original G2 in game) in dogfight online session, I will cheat ... because with your new G4 cockpit, I enjoy an outstanding rear view ....

Which Mr LAL_RONE has a point with - with the change in rear-view. But in the scheme of things - its rather insignifigant when you consider the '51-D Mirror, or the Mk-IX Gyro sight.

Infact I think its a wonderful job and I cant wait for it to be released.

So... When are we getting our hands on THIS little Christmas Cracker?

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