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Requests - Guest - 16.12.2008

I have looked at the link as you suggested, these are all aircraft that look as if they would require building from scratch. This on the other hand is a classic frankenplane... even the real thing looks as if was made from parts "stolen" from other aircraft.

Ranwers, Slow, Checkyersix, what do you think ?

I rest my case now,

Live long and prosper..

GJE52

- Guest - 16.12.2008

Zorin Wrote:To quote an official report from 12.-13.6.1944:

"Plane looks anharmonic... As a whole it looks like little weight and powerful engines, but bad aerodynamics."

yeah? where is this official report from?

Re: Frankenplane ???? - Guest - 16.12.2008

Radoye Wrote:
GJE52 Wrote:I will be the first to admit that I am no expert in these things but looking at the shape of this aircraft each part - from the engine naceles/wing structure (almost B25?) to the tail plane and fuselage - seems to remind me of other aircraft that are already in IL2 :wink: . Pieces that could be used almost as is, with minimal modding. It is almost as if it is crying out for someone to cut and paste this together.

It really is a good looking aircraft, shame its flying history was rather unfortunate.. so to speak.

GJE52
The biggest problem would be to model it to simply fall apart at random in the air as the real thing used to do :lol: :lol: :lol:


I'm not buying this.

Re: Frankenplane ???? - Guest - 16.12.2008

GJE52 Wrote:I will be the first to admit that I am no expert in these things but looking at the shape of this aircraft each part - from the engine naceles/wing structure (almost B25?) to the tail plane and fuselage - seems to remind me of other aircraft that are already in IL2 :wink: . Pieces that could be used almost as is, with minimal modding. It is almost as if it is crying out for someone to cut and paste this together.

It really is a good looking aircraft, shame its flying history was rather unfortunate.. so to speak.

GJE52

You guys just make stuff up.

Re: Frankenplane ???? - 109dude - 16.12.2008

GJE52 Wrote:I will be the first to admit that I am no expert in these things but looking at the shape of this aircraft each part - from the engine naceles/wing structure (almost B25?) to the tail plane and fuselage - seems to remind me of other aircraft that are already in IL2 :wink: . Pieces that could be used almost as is, with minimal modding. It is almost as if it is crying out for someone to cut and paste this together.

It really is a good looking aircraft, shame its flying history was rather unfortunate.. so to speak.

GJE52

A B-25? Hahaha, the B-25 is way too slow to even attempt to be a good franken FM for this

- 109dude - 16.12.2008

[quote="Jg3_Hartmann"]Well, the construction of the plane was very good, and it would have been an very good plane for it task. But they used the "wrong" glue for the planned production planes (because the one they used for the prototypes wasn

- Freiwillige - 16.12.2008

If it werent cancelled then I am more than sure that the Germans would have gotten the problems fixed. After all it was just basically a prototype. Quite a few R.A.F. Mosquito prototypes crashed before the bugs were worked out as well.

And they were trying to replicate the British Mosquito. It was such a nuance to the Luftwaffe that they wanted there own and even kept the name! Now I dont mean they copied the desighn but they did want an aircraft in their posssion that copied its capability. They had something close to that already though in the Ju-88 series.

- Zorin - 16.12.2008

struwwelpeter Wrote:
Zorin Wrote:To quote an official report from 12.-13.6.1944:

"Plane looks anharmonic... As a whole it looks like little weight and powerful engines, but bad aerodynamics."

yeah? where is this official report from?

How about you adjust your attitude?

"Bericht

- Guest - 16.12.2008

Zorin Wrote:
struwwelpeter Wrote:[quote="Zorin"]To quote an official report from 12.-13.6.1944:

"Plane looks anharmonic... As a whole it looks like little weight and powerful engines, but bad aerodynamics."

yeah? where is this official report from?

How about you adjust your attitude?

"Bericht

- caldrail - 17.12.2008

Yes they did know how to make aircraft at this time but like all nationalities involved in aircraft manufacture they didn't always get it right. Also this was wartime, so corners were cut in the need to get warplanes out to squadrons. It also meant that aircraft were accepted that weren't necessarily as safe as those accepted in peacetime. You also need to realise that these aeroplanes were usually out on the cutting edge of performance at that time - they were slightly experimental in that respect, since there were issues involved in aerodynamics we take for granted today that weren't clearly understood in 1942. A lot of german aircraft were becoming shoddy in manufacture toward the end - the resuilt of poor labour, materials, and manufacturing premises in dispersed camps and mines to escape allied bombing.

No attitude involved there - its a matter of historical record.

- Murph - 17.12.2008

Also there were a fair number of small acts of sabotage by the slave laborers building the German planes.

- Slow - 18.12.2008

The tail seems similar to the one of the Ta-152... :o

- zeppo - 18.12.2008

the orignal glue factory was bombed the other glues wasnt up to the standard so it had a bad habit of coming apart

- Guest - 18.12.2008

I know I said I had spoken my "two cents" worth on this but I think we have done the "glue was the problem" comments and nationalistic sentiments to death now.

As Slow rightly says, when you actually look at this aircraft, piece by piece, it is just a combination of parts that have almost remarkable similarity to bits from other aircraft in the game.

My question was simply, is it a possible easy win for a skilled modder, given that the meshes would need minimal changes ? Or am I barking up the proverbial wrong tree here? :wink:

Look at the fantastic job Checkyersix did (with a little help from his friends) with the 219.

:?
GJE52

- Slow - 18.12.2008

GJE52 Wrote:I know I said I had spoken my "two cents" worth on this but I think we have done the "glue was the problem" comments and nationalistic sentiments to death now.

As Slow rightly says, when you actually look at this aircraft, piece by piece, it is just a combination of parts that have almost remarkable similarity to bits from other aircraft in the game.

My question was simply, is it a possible easy win for a skilled modder, given that the meshes would need minimal changes ? Or am I barking up the proverbial wrong tree here? :wink:

Look at the fantastic job Checkyersix did (with a little help from his friends) with the 219.

:?
GJE52

With all due respect, CY6s model will need some changes to the nose... This one would even be easier.