[WIP] Bell P-39 "Airacobra" cockpit repainted - Printable Version

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- Flanker35M - 07.05.2009

S!

THanx for the link! Downloading now. MAngas, keep up the great work!

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- B50 - 08.05.2009

Looks great as always Anton,

Where did you manage to find the placard for the map case?

I looked around for quite a while myself, and couldn't find a clear picture or reference. I pick the Q10 every once in a while on Spits vs 109's MOD over Slovakia.

Nathan

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- Mangas - 08.05.2009

B50 Wrote:Looks great as always Anton,

Where did you manage to find the placard for the map case?

I looked around for quite a while myself, and couldn't find a clear picture or reference. I pick the Q10 every once in a while on Spits vs 109's MOD over Slovakia.

Nathan

Well, thanks to HolyGrail for directing me to perhaps the best detailed walkaround of the remaining true -39Q:
http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/p ... 21_18A.jpg

Btw, Nathan, is it possible that you find any reliable info about what exactly Bell Green & Zink Chromate colous were looke like?

I think I still JUST HAVE TO make a fresh non-weathered version painted in color similar to smth. like:




Regarads,
Mangas.

P.S.: To everybody: please feel free to post your thoughts (as well as colour samples) about the true possible colour that might have been used. You'll help me A LOT to stop hesitating and continue the work... Maybe this original discussion will boost the ideas:

http://www.simmerspaintshop.com/forums/ ... ckpit.html

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- chris455 - 10.05.2009

"It is not known for sure how much Medium Green was used for interior finishes. Several Army instructions dated as long as end-1943 called for Medium Green finish on interior portions of cockpits that were subject to direct rays of the sun. Bell might have used a variation of Medium Green for the cockpits of P-39 Airacobra."
Color chip:
http://www.colorserver.net/showcolor.asp?fs=34092

Mangas, this is the same color you show above.
My guess would be that, if you use this as a base, after weathering it would be nearly identical to what at least some P-39s cockpits were finished in.
Go for it!

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- JAMF - 10.05.2009

True craftsmanship! 8)

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- zorro1980 - 11.05.2009

Airacobras are my favourite plane type , i pray to God you will finish this , thank you very much Mangas ! Spassiba

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- HolyGrail - 11.05.2009

I love you too Mangas !!
I see light at the end of the tunnel with brand new spanking P-39 pit colors

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- Mangas - 14.05.2009

After a lot of hesitations & debates with myself, I decided to make a Bell Green colored 'pit.
So some main elements are done already... I think I'm going ahead of my own schedule for this... :lol: Well, I'll surely will finish it sooner than expected, especially if JAMF will "lend-lease" me his mega-high-detailed USAAF instruments... :wink:

Here's just a small demonstration of what may be possibly done with them
(JAMF, if you read this -- hello! :lol: ):




More updates are coming soon...


Regards,
Mangas.

P.S.: whoever whants to help me, please, I'm in need of black coloured high-res metal textures, solid/plain and with some scratches would be great! Thank you.

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- Bee - 14.05.2009

This is going to be great.

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- JAMF - 14.05.2009

Hello Mangas.

I will join in the request for a good black painted metal texture. The instrument panel would benefit from a good background texture.

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- Flanker35M - 14.05.2009

S!

This looks good. Great work! Will for sure give P39 more time after this gem is out

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- chris455 - 15.05.2009

Looking terrific, Mangas-
I like the Bell green.
P-39 is a fun ride, I can't help but feel that in game it is a shade better than real life, but- I need all the help I can get with certs new AI mod!

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- zorro1980 - 18.05.2009

P-39 is the individual top scorer allied plane against the Luftwaffe during WWII , people often forget this

Bad feedback about P-39 made by British and American pilots were about the first series of Airacobras in 1941 , if you look at their griefs , most of them were addressed by Bell in later variants except the poor performances at high alt due to lack of supercharger of the engine ( If only the P-39 had been fitted with a supercharged engine , it would have been awesome )

In game , the P-39 quite accurately reflects its real life counterpart in term of performances at low to medium altitude IMHO (eastern front conditions ) , it is still inferior to anything German except the G6 , and still very poor at high alt as it should be .

i'd even say perhaps its responsiveness at higher speed above 400kph is slightly undermodelled (according to accounts i've read , not only Golodnikov but in various other books , Soviet Cobra pilots had no problem following 109's whatever they did except in sustained climb, they could fight on par with them in the vertical plan and out-accelerate them in a dive , not sure we can reproduce this in game )

Also the damage model is quite frustrating ( any hit in the rear part of the fuselage necessarily hits the engine which is annoying , due to DM simplification ) . In our sim Il-2 , the 109 and the P-39 are the planes that have been given the most attention in FM , can't remember where i had read this , must be a few years ago on ORR .

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- Mangas - 21.05.2009

zorro1980, thx for the article and your interest...

Continue doing little here and there... Babysteps... But every day! :lol:
Most BIG elements are finished already... Some buttons/indicators/stencils & minor details are left to do... If I'll have the super-drooper instruments by JAMF then the whole thing will be finished within a month or so... Much sooner than I actually planned... :lol: Here's couple more WIP pics:







Regards,
Mangas.

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- Catahoulak9 - 21.05.2009

Marvelous work Mangas. Will this cockpit be available for all the P-39 variants?

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