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- Billfish - 20.01.2010
nzwilliam Wrote:It does sound like a field modification aye, in which case - did all airforces that used these aircraft make this modification and if not how common was it?
Perhaps the ideal would be to have the two configurations in the loadout options, let each player decide or alternatively online the server could restrict the loadout options depending on the theatre of Op's or scenario the map is trying to represent.
It's not easy finding information on this aspect of the Mig-15 though.
However, why?
Our standard loadouts work by individual sets of guns be they MG's & cannons or whatever.....AND.....All guns. It's already set up like this for virtually all aircraft.
All it takes is seperating the fire, and the buttons are already there.
K2
- nzwilliam - 20.01.2010
I really don't know why, but I don't believe it was a glitch or accident that these guns were bound together. The person who made the mod must have come across some evidence that the Mig-15 had this as a normal, historical configuration or I don't believe they would have changed it from their original setup....perhaps someone who knows can post some more historical information.
Personally I'd love to have the option of choosing which weapon to use depending on target but not at the expense of historical accuracy or online fairness or compatibility.
- fallout3 - 21.01.2010
Personally I like the 3-gun-to-one-trigger setting more.
Also it is the way preffered by real life PLAAF pilots.
One example,according to the memoir of a PLAAF MiG-17 pilot,the pilot of a MiG-17 can choose the gun(s) he want to charge by using the control box on the top left side of the instrument panel,and he led a damaged Komintang F-86 slip away for not charging the 37mm.
- Billfish - 21.01.2010
nzwilliam Wrote:I really don't know why, but I don't believe it was a glitch or accident that these guns were bound together. The person who made the mod must have come across some evidence that the Mig-15 had this as a normal, historical configuration or I don't believe they would have changed it from their original setup....perhaps someone who knows can post some more historical information.
Personally I'd love to have the option of choosing which weapon to use depending on target but not at the expense of historical accuracy or online fairness or compatibility.
Yes well I don't believe it is a glitch or accident, yet very possibly the very common mistake of taking one anecdotal of what "X" person(s) did to alter their aircraft, and applying it to the aircraft itself as though that is how they came.
fallout3 Wrote:Personally I like the 3-gun-to-one-trigger setting more.
Also it is the way preffered by real life PLAAF pilots.
One example,according to the memoir of a PLAAF MiG-17 pilot,the pilot of a MiG-17 can choose the gun(s) he want to charge by using the control box on the top left side of the instrument panel,and he led a damaged Komintang F-86 slip away for not charging the 37mm.
That's fine, and not a problem as all aircraft have that as a standard option here......Fire Weapon 1, Fire Weapon 2, Fire Weapon 1+2.....As it stands now however 2 of the 3 options are incorrectly missing. You get what you like either way.
K2
- nzwilliam - 21.01.2010
fallout3 Wrote:Also it is the way preffered by real life PLAAF pilots.
One example,according to the memoir of a PLAAF MiG-17 pilot,the pilot of a MiG-17 can choose the gun(s) he want to charge by using the control box on the top left side of the instrument panel,and he led a damaged Komintang F-86 slip away for not charging the 37mm.
Yes, but does that mean we have a standard PLAAF Mig-15 configuration? For arguement sake..I read there were 30 odd countries that used various versions and setups of Mig-15 including Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Angola, Armenia, Bulgaria, Cambodia, Congo, Cuba, East Germany, Egypt, Finland, Guinea-Bissau, Hungary, Indonesia, Iraq, Israel (captured Egyptian examples), Libya, Madagascar, Mali, Mongolia, Morocco, Mozambique, Nigeria, Pakistan, Romania, Somalia, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Uganda, North Vietnam and Yemen....surely they didn't all prefer this setup?
If what we have are PLAAF examples, maybe new slot Migs with other loadouts and weapon configurations could be a more valid option than changing the existing setup. There were fighter-bomber versions could also carry bombs, rockets, fuel drop tanks.