what about the cockpit for Fw189 ?? - Printable Version

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- Username - 26.11.2007

Have to agree - I've looked at all the likely and unlikely candidates. We'd all prefer a multi-panel 'beetle eye' canopy but there's no easily usable example - bar the He 111, which looks a bit too rounded but I suppose has major advantages for Jolly, in terms of pilot controls and overhanging instruments.

This is the other alternative that might do (A 20):



Given that the FW 189 was renowned for its all round view is there any way of incorporating, say, the G4M1 glasshouse - with whatever front view is chosen?







The rear cone-shaped turret of the G4M1 might also sit well at the rear of the FW 189.

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- CKY_86 - 26.11.2007

More pictures ive stumbled upon.

Top turret gun:



Rear gun:



At a guess, one of the rear guns on the Ju-88 would be sutible for the top turret & the rear gun on the Betty would be ok for the rear gun on the FW.

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- Username - 26.11.2007

I had a look at the rear gun of the Ju 88 but the armour surround looks a bit asymmetrical (skewed to one side). Might just be a viewpoint thing. If the armoured ring with the kidney shaped glass could be taken out, it might be usable. Only has one MG 81 though.




If it can't be used, there is the Ju 87 D3;

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- ROSOBORONEXPORTCORP - 26.11.2007

A possible solution just occurred to me (thanks to username's post)!

The FW-200 uses the gondola position from the He-111 but in reverse! This means that it is possible to change the orientation of the cockpits (I have only ever swapped cockpits eg. to fix the Mig-3)!

So we should be looking at the sides and tops of canopies as well...

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- Username - 26.11.2007

Nice idea Roso. Actually, you just made me take a look at the Condor gondola and I reckon the gun mount - upside down - could be another possibility for the FW 189 mid-gun position. (I think on early examples the mid-gun position was not as heavily armoured as the one shown in CKY_86's post above).

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- Gizmog - 27.11.2007

I don't know why I didn't think of it before, but you might try the Lerche cockpit on for size. It's a similar size and appearance to the B-25 nose turret, but has proper flight instruments.

EDIT: Sorry, I hadn't noticed it had been mentioned before.

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- LAL_RONE - 27.11.2007

I think Lerche cockpit is too small. And there is no cross hatching in forward glass. Look at the photo of 189 cockpit ...
We need a square cross hatching glass with an horizontal sight. Ju-88 is perfect if nobody change 3D cockpit. I will be necessary to modify angle of view ....

If someone could transform a cockpit, he could be interresting to use He-111 instruments panel + G4M1 cross hatching for example ....

For top gunner + 1000 with Username !! Use Ju88 or Ju87D gunner !
For tail gunner + 1000 with Roso. Inverse He-111 gondola !

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- Guest - 27.11.2007

ok here is quick & easy solution to this plane

either we have just open cockpit (like wonder women view) for the cockpit
& have floating gun sights for guns (like we did with remote turret for b29)

what i would like to know is did the 189 have a bombsight ?

btw fantastic pictures CKY_86 :wink:

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- Trooper117 - 27.11.2007

Can't find any info yet on that but here are the variants..

Variants
The main production model was the Fw 189A reconnaissance plane, built mostly in two variants, the A-1 and A-2. The Fw 189B was a five-seater training aircraft, but only 13 were built. A heavily armored ground attack variant, the Fw 189C conceived, but its two prototypes (V1b and V6) were not satisfactory, and it was not produced...

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- Username - 27.11.2007

Yes it did, a Zielger

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- Username - 29.11.2007

Hi Jolly,
Don't know if you're still working on this, but if you are, there might be some mileage in the Ju 88 front and rear canopy frames:

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- LAL_RONE - 29.11.2007

Whaouw !!! GREAT !!!
It will be the solution ... Ju-88 nose !!!

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- LAL_RONE - 06.12.2007

Is someone work on Fw-189 cockpit ?

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- HH_Cipher - 06.12.2007

*cough* Arado Blitz Cockpit *cough*

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- RAF_Magpie - 13.12.2007

PLR_Cipher_UK Wrote:*cough* Arado Blitz Cockpit *cough*

- He-111
- Ardo Ar-234 Blitz
- Lerche
- Ju-88

BUMP

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