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- Jg3_Hartmann - 09.08.2008
Look, like it was said before...till 1942 (or 1943) it was Messerschmitt Bf-109F-2 (for example) and after 1942/43) it was Messerschmitt Me-109G-6
Thats why a Bf-110C-4 is a Bf and a Me-410 is a Me
AND the Company
- Brophmeister - 09.08.2008
ballenato Wrote:Use designation at will, if you dont like Me or BF, use your imagiantion and edit the files, thats all. :roll:
I am SO renaming the Lerche to "Flying Dildo"
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- BH_Blue - 09.08.2008
who cares wha theyre called, just get in the plane and kick some ass.
- making153 - 11.08.2008
The first time the ME designation was used was on the Me 163 - prior to that BF !
- RAF_Leigh - 11.08.2008
8 months
i dont no and if u read before both ME and BF were used so i dont no
- Mangas - 12.08.2008
"Bayerische Flugzeugwerke (BFW) (Bavarian Aircraft Works) was reformed in 1926 in Augsburg, Bavaria when Udet-Flugzeugbau GmbH was changed into a joint-stock company. In the early stages, BMW AG held a stake in this company and was represented by Josef Popp, who held a place on the Supervisory Board.[1]
Willy Messerschmitt joined the company in 1927 as chief designer and engineer, and formed a design team.
Messerschmitt promoted a concept he called "light weight construction" in which many typically separate load-bearing parts were merged into a single reinforced firewall, thereby saving weight and improving performance. The first true test of the concept was in the Bf 108 Taifun sports-plane, which would soon be setting all sorts of records. Based on this performance the company was invited to submit a design for the Luftwaffe's 1935 fighter contest, winning it with the Bf 109, based on the same construction methods.
From this point on Messerschmitt became a favorite of the Nazi party, as much for his designs as his political abilities and the factory location in southern Germany away from the "clumping" of aviation firms on the northern coast. BFW was reconstituted as Messerschmitt AG on July 11, 1938, with Willy Messerschmitt as chairman and managing director. The renaming of BFW resulted in the company's RLM designation changing from Bf to Me for all newer designs after the acquisition date. Existing types, such as the Bf 109 and 110, retained their earlier designation in official documents, although sometimes the newer designations were used as well, most often by subcontractors. In practise, all BFW/Messerschmitt aircraft from 108 to 163 (not the same plane as the Me 163) were prefixed Bf, all later types with Me."
Hope this can help.
P.S.: this is a very nice mod to be... I mean true historical names. But I wish it would correct all current ingame dropdown menu stuff like "i-153_fin" or "H_75A2" as well...
Best regards,
Mangas.
- Davew - 13.08.2008
[quote="Skunkmeister"]Ok, so why are ALL 109 identification plates(including K-14's) stamped Bf 109?
You are right, all 109s were stamped Bf, as that was the original designation of the aircraft, but both terms were used throughout the war, and not just by the Allies, so it's sort of a moot point.
"Both are correct for the Messerschmitt 109 fighter. Both the factory and the Luftwaffe used both designations throughout the life of the 109. Both Bf 109 and Me 109 appear in "official" documents from a variety of 'official sources, from the production facilities themselves to internal RLM docs. It is wrong to say that 'Me 109' is incorrect or that Bf was terminated during construction of the 108-109-series fighter. These alternative designations didn't stop at the Gustav; many Augsburg documents from the last months of the war still used the Bf prefix."
http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/art ... bigpicture
- ILV_Aquila_Noctis - 15.08.2008
While reading through this thread, I saw a mistake some people made:
That plane is neither called Messerschmidt Bf 109, nor Messerschmidt Me 109.....it's Messerschmitt, mates! :wink:
Though most of the people do it right
