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MODDING cockpits ... my first steps - fly_zo - 20.11.2007

first attempt .... U2VS : removed triggers from stick , removed reticle

... how to find whole gunsight in cockpitU2VS.him file ? tga is clearly pricel.tga but if i mess with that all my i16 will lose gunsight...

here's pic:

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- SVHAK - 20.11.2007

Hi, great piece of work, it definatly does look very good....well done!

Only wish i had the brains to do stuff lie this, your all doing a great job, thanks. :wink:

I it possible to remove the U2 cockpit glass? Just asking, & since your woring on this maybe you can give it a go.... :roll:

S.

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- SVHAK - 20.11.2007

Hi again.....

since your working on this beutifull scout plane, would it be possible for you to try and work on the following improvements for the 'Fiesler Storch'?


This is a 'humble' Request and I fully understand that you are all extremly busy with more 'important' mods but this little aircraft has so much offline potential!

1. Swap p39 cockpit for early stuka (remove sights if possible & side window 'dive bombing' angles, if possible)

2. use of gunner (if possible), stuka will do

3. Improve wheels, (if possible) for more 'realistic' look.

Again, thanks for all your hard work, everyone.

S.

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- fly_zo - 20.11.2007

SHVAK Wrote:Hi again.....

since your working on this beutifull scout plane, would it be possible for you to try and work on the following improvements for the 'Fiesler Storch'?


This is a 'humble' Request and I fully understand that you are all extremly busy with more 'important' mods but this little aircraft has so much offline potential!

1. Swap p39 cockpit for early stuka (remove sights if possible & side window 'dive bombing' angles, if possible)

2. use of gunner (if possible), stuka will do

3. Improve wheels, (if possible) for more 'realistic' look.

Again, thanks for all your hard work, everyone.

S.

well man i just started with this so that one i really think should wait for real modders ( MrJolly LtWolf...) ... i'm still learning


thanks for support

Z
p.s. i'll look into U2VS glass for start

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- Loku - 20.11.2007

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- SVHAK - 20.11.2007

Thanks for your effort Fly-zo, good luck on removing that front glass & keep up the exellent work & don't worry, eventually someone will redo the fiesler storch...

Thanks everyone.

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- fly_zo - 20.11.2007

SG4_Loku Wrote:Fly_zo, i tried same,problem is that all I-16s share same cokpit hier.him file with u-2, we need new hier.him file for u-2,new U-2 class file is needed with new i.e: pilothier.him so we can move pilot pit forward (u2 glass show pilot position,wich is now wrong).About gungsight,im afraid gunsight is part of body mesh so we cant remove it.

thanks for info m8

...i can live with present state ... couldn't see the damn rudder indicator from those triggers ... well i can see it now :wink:


@SHVAK: thank you very much


all the best
Z

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- Username - 20.11.2007

I'm wondering whether a different cockpit might make it easier to get a good result for the U2VS. Basically, we need a 'pit that can be modded to have a plain windshield and no gunsight. What about using the I 153 M62 cockpit?:



It seems from this picture that the gunsight might be removable. The windshield frame would ideally be thinned, but that's not a major issue.

Another possibility might be the Fiat G50;



It's another very simple cockpit and I assume it would be possible to remove the gunsight. Maybe the optically flat section and its two support frames could be deleted to leave just a plain windshield shape?

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- Ranwers - 20.11.2007

It's possibility in I-153, but cockpit from I-16 looking better. :roll:

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- Username - 20.11.2007

Thanks for trying this. I think with some more work the I-153 'pit could be made acceptable for the U2VS. Would removing the gunsight by this method remove it permanently from the I-153 M62 and I-153P? If so, that's not good.

Unfortunately, the I-16 front canopy screen is inappropriate for the U2VS (any biplane really) and the reflector-sight glass will always be irritating if it can't be removed.

Do you know how to place the I-153 cockpit in the U2VS? I'm curious to see what it would look like, especially from a normal viewpoint, centred on the gunsight axis (your screenshot has a very raised viewpoint).

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- fly_zo - 20.11.2007

great efforts guys

i'm not sure if I153 cockpit is wide enough but if you make separate .him file it should leave default I153 cockpits untouched . Just need Mr.Jolly to include it in mod ....

my personal I153 doesn't have metal reticle anymore ...


Z

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- Guest - 20.11.2007

we were actually updating this one ourselfs lol - wolf was doing the cockpit & im updating the gunner position-hey im not saying we decide what happens noooo im just saying we wanted to update our mod & make it better but as you have allready got so far ok we go with what you have done - you see also we know how to effect things like target / sights without effecting all other planes using same target

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- fly_zo - 20.11.2007

MrJolly Wrote:we were actually updating this one ourselfs lol - wolf was doing the cockpit & im updating the gunner position- but as you have allready got so far ok we go with what you have done - you see we know how to effect things like target / sights without effecting all other planes using same target

there was never doubt in my mind regarding you guys constant improvement of modded planes


didn't mean to step into your territory mates :oops: ... just was exited with my small success


keep them coming!

Z

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- Guest - 20.11.2007

Quote:didn't mean to step into your territory mates

absolutly not ! its not our territory whatsoever & im glad you are playing with cockpits !
can you send me it when youve finished - so that we include it with next update ?

all i was saying was that we were playing with the u2v & wanted to update our mod - thats all

ignore what i said & just please give me your cool cockpit as soon as youve finished it -please-

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- fly_zo - 20.11.2007

MrJolly Wrote:

Quote:didn't mean to step into your territory mates

absolutly not ! its not our territory whatsoever & im glad you are playing with cockpits !
can you send me it when youve finished - so that we include it with next update ?

all i was saying was that we were playing with the u2v & wanted to update our mod - thats all

ignore what i said & just please give me your cool cockpit as soon as youve finished it -please-

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thanks
Z

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