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Audable Stall Warning...? - RAF_Magpie - 27.12.2007

Is it possible to empliment an audable stall warning buzzer to Il2...?

Along with the likes of the undercart lowering/raising noises and clunking?

- Brophmeister - 27.12.2007

I know that most modern aircraft have them, but not sure about WWII stuff. Might need some research. Would be a cool feature to have, +1!
In the meantime, watch for 1) wingtip contrails and 2) airframe buffet. If you have either/both of these symptoms, you are about to stall!

[edit] did a quick Google, and found bugger all on the history of stall warning indicators. I suppose its not exactly something that many people really have interest in!

- Nightshifter - 27.12.2007

It's weird but with all the years I have played this game I just kinda "know" when I'm going to stall and just ease off in whatever manoeuvre I am doing.

Might be handy though if it was indeed a feature in some aircraft.

- Klemm - 28.12.2007

Nightshifter Wrote:It's weird but with all the years I have played this game I just kinda "know" when I'm going to stall and just ease off in whatever manoeuvre I am doing.

Might be handy though if it was indeed a feature in some aircraft.
Thats not weird, I have that feeling too after years of playing Il-2. Its only natural, like riding a bike or walking.
And the buzzer would first: be unrealistic because none or only few of those planes back then had it, and second: there would have to be already some code in the game or would have to implemented that gives a feedback that a stall is approaching. On second thought, the buffeting sound could be replaced, but its already audible enough and gives ample warning IMO.
Just learn to feel the airplane through gaming experience. That helps with anything, for example i don't even have to really aim, i just know where the bullets will go (of course i need the gunsight as a pointer, but nothing more).

- RAF_Magpie - 28.12.2007

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Yeah I thought as much about the historical accuracy - but wasnt sure.. did some research into it and looky at this, rather interesting really:

Quote:http://www.invent.org/Hall_Of_Fame/71.html
Leonard Michael Greene
Born Jun 8 1918 - Died Nov 30 2006

Stall Warning Device for Airplanes Aircraft Stall Warning Device
Patent No. 2,478,967

Inducted 1991

Leonard Michael Greene has patented dozens of inventions in aviation technology, including the device that warns pilots when a deadly aerodynamic stall is imminent.

Invention Impact

At the time Greene invented the stall-warning device, more than half of all aviation deaths were caused by the stall/spin. A Saturday Evening Post article (Oct. 25, 1947) said of Greene's innovation, 'It may be the greatest life saver since invention of the parachute.'

Inventor Bio

Born in New York City, Greene received his B.S. and M.S. degrees from City University of New York. In 1977 he was awarded an honorary doctorate by Pace University. During World War II, Greene joined the Grumman Aircraft Corporation as an aerodynamicist and engineering test pilot. Witness to an aircraft accident caused by stall, he realized the pilot could not tell when the angle of airflow over the wing had become excessive. The stall-warning device Greene then invented brought him his first of more than 100 patents to date, 60 of which cover aviation technology. To build his invention, Greene established the Safe Flight Instrument Corporation in White Plains, New York, in 1946. Other Greene inventions added to the product line included a wind-shear warning system that warns a pilot if an aircraft enters a dangerous microburst and provides escape guidance. Today the firm supplies unique air safety and performance technology to virtually every major air carrier, the U.S. Armed Forces, and to aircraft manufacturers worldwide. Since 1974, Greene has also been president of the Institute for Socioeconomic Studies in White Plains, New York. He has written a book entitled Free Enterprise Without Poverty, and articles on socioeconomics.

Naturally the aircraft I fly have these standard, of course, and we're trained initially to do our advanced manouvers with the warning buzzer etc. It got me thinking it would be a nice addition - but again - I wasnt sure about the historics of this myself.

- Guest - 28.12.2007

Still this would be great..."Along with the likes of the undercart lowering/raising noises and clunking?"

- Trooper117 - 29.12.2007

Well, I'm trying to emulate flying a WWII aircraft, so it's a resounding no from me, wether it would be 'cool' or not...
Yes, I've flown aircraft with a stall warning for real, and it's an asset to lnow when you have an impending stall, but not on this game please..

- RAF_Magpie - 29.12.2007

Definitely a No from me too considering my research - I regret suggesting it before I looked into it.

Considering it wasnt invented till 1947 :roll: - I cant believe I didnt look into it before the suggestion left my finger tips :oops:

It is a great tool in MODERN aircraft, but it simply wasnt there in the Vintage.

My bad :oops:

- Trooper117 - 29.12.2007

Quote:I cant believe I didnt look into it before the suggestion left my finger tips

HOW many times have I done something oh so similar!!.. lol!

- RAF_Magpie - 29.12.2007

Sucks doesnt it :oops:

- R0NNC0 - 29.12.2007

I think I remember reading that the F6F made a honking or moaning sound right before stall speed, something with the cowl ducting. I'll try to dig it up.