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Is possible fix the low impact STUKA G-1 37mm canon? - Paulo Hirth - 04.01.2008

When you hit the land is low impact like a 109F2!!! the impact must be like YAK9-K 37mm!!


- Metatron - 04.01.2008

Indeed. I saw a video with Rudel blasting away and the explosions where pretty big compared to what happens in the game.


- SG2_Wasy - 04.01.2008

Il2 stuka have only AP ammo, for me it's normal, becouse HE work not corrrect...


- Trooper117 - 04.01.2008

Some of the film with that weapon system was in marshy or water logged wasn't it??


- SG2_Wasy - 05.01.2008

If you try b.k 3,7 from 110 you see water splash too, becouse it have AP-HE belt..... But for stuka only AP is better.

Hmm something wrong with database...

And i have experience in real world too, after two hard year in Russian army. Fireshot from Ak74, PKM, AGS-30, BMP-2 weapons (2a42, PKT), 2B9 and 2B14 mortar, 2C3 selfpropelled gun, D-30 cannon. May don't say me about ammo effects.


- Phillip - 05.01.2008

SG2_Wasy Wrote:If you try b.k 3,7 from 110 you see water splash too, becouse it have AP-HE belt..... But for stuka only AP is better.

Hmm something wrong with database...

And i have experience in real world too, after two hard year in Russian army. Fireshot from Ak74, PKM, AGS-30, BMP-2 weapons (2a42, PKT), 2B9 and 2B14 mortar, 2C3 selfpropelled gun, D-30 cannon. May don't say me about ammo effects.

Bravo, Bravo, Herr Wasy! Big Grin

I myself spent 12 years in the Army, and I KNOW what a .50cal can do to aircraft (helicopters) and to armored vehicles. I have seen a .50 punch through a BMP-1 at 1000 yards and go out the other side. Messing everyone inside up! I have seen a 250 lb bomb land 20 meters away from a tank (T-62) and blow it up. You don't need a direct hit to destroy them. Within a 25 meter radius knocks them out. And small boats.......well even steel hull fishing boats can go down when 6 or more .50's are concentrating on it!

I may not be a aviation engineer, but I have seen most of the weapons in the game used in RL situations. :wink:

Phillip


- SG2_Wasy - 05.01.2008

Phillip Wrote:
SG2_Wasy Wrote:If you try b.k 3,7 from 110 you see water splash too, becouse it have AP-HE belt..... But for stuka only AP is better.

Hmm something wrong with database...

And i have experience in real world too, after two hard year in Russian army. Fireshot from Ak74, PKM, AGS-30, BMP-2 weapons (2a42, PKT), 2B9 and 2B14 mortar, 2C3 selfpropelled gun, D-30 cannon. May don't say me about ammo effects.

Bravo, Bravo, Herr Wasy! Big Grin

I myself spent 12 years in the Army, and I KNOW what a .50cal can do to aircraft (helicopters) and to armored vehicles. I have seen a .50 punch through a BMP-1 at 1000 yards and go out the other side. Messing everyone inside up! I have seen a 250 lb bomb land 20 meters away from a tank (T-62) and blow it up. You don't need a direct hit to destroy them. Within a 25 meter radius knocks them out. And small boats.......well even steel hull fishing boats can go down when 6 or more .50's are concentrating on it!

I may not be a aviation engineer, but I have seen most of the weapons in the game used in RL situations. :wink:

Phillip
LoL it was answer for Trooper117, but some database problem and some posts are lost.
It's game and i support Maddox Game with resolve give only AP ammo for Stuka....
Yes, and Stuka in game it's panzerkiller, and AP ammo more good for them and smoke don't interferes for targeting.........
And finaly, Rule of this site - don't touch weapons parameters.....


- JAMF - 05.01.2008

SG2_Wasy Wrote:And finaly, Rule of this site - don't touch weapons parameters.....
Just maybe the size of the splash (film was water and marshland) isn't a weapons parameter, but an effect that is attached to a type of impact? (I do not know how the splash size is determined)
Use B.k 3.7 with bf110 and you will be have splash......


- Paulo Hirth - 05.01.2008

PLEASE, before post anwer start the game and shot with STUKA G-1 in land or water... this is to low efect, is wrong! Nobody is talking about parameter but low efects.


- Trooper117 - 06.01.2008

Paulo is correct, fly it and see.. I know it is supposed to be AP, but the splash and hit signature is very poor..


- DIVEGUY43 - 13.01.2008

Here is the video of what the 37mm rounds should looK like.........

http://www.goregasm.com/index.php?view= ... 1200171304


The ones we have now look like someone is throwing rocks in the water when they hit...... :lol:


- ROSOBORONEXPORTCORP - 13.01.2008

Just an academic note: .50 cal AP ammunition and bomb fillings have both improved considerably since the great patriotic war.


- Trooper117 - 14.01.2008

The kinetic energy that a solid shot striking say water or marshland hasn't..