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Modding and community - I/JG27_Waggel - 22.04.2008

You have to be carefully if you write about mods in other forums.
You have to be carefully if you talk about mods in TS.

Because

A lot of pilots think:

MODDING = CHEATING

In my home forum there was a big discussion when sound mod was available. A lot of pilots said that this sound mod is great. It also was a little kick into olegs direction. All the years we told him: Please make a better sound. Oleg only said: Buy a new soundcard.

But a lot of pilots said: This mod is not good for the community because community could be splitted. A lot of server put in "check runtime2" because they did not want to have pilots with soundmod on server. These pilots might be cheaters and they might use some hacks to be better pilots.

I personally like skinning. I want to give my bird a personal touch. I studied mechanical engineering at university and I like new technical performance and grafical style. I would like to optimize an object if there is any possibility.

Oleg and his team made a very good simulation for technically inspired warbird fans. But they had to build this simulation in an economically short time. The first version of this simulation started many years ago. The grafics where brilliant in that time but now they are old if you compare them with brand new games.

I joined this forum with mixed feelings because I did not want to be confrontated with cheats and other bad stuff. I only wanted to help making this simulation even better. I did not became disappointed. Pilots from all around the world come together, work together in teams to make something new. Spitfire pilots talk with focke wulf pilots about how to make new hangars. Wilcat and Zero pilots are working together. And in other forums these guys are declared as cheater gangsters.

If there could be a chance to show them, that they are wrong, please tell. I always try to talk with other pilots in a diplomatical way. I do not say, ok, i like this mod BUT I only play it offline. I tell them, that they dont have to be afraid if someone uses soundmod. There are A LOT OF more resett putton sitcher than cheaters in this community. Other pilots still think that you can cheat be permanently pressing the print screen button :roll:

My big wish is: Make an offical inoffical patch 5.0 with all this brand new stuff that has to be shown to the community. Hundreds of hours work are behind these mods. And they are so greatful. If loving mods is wrong I dont want to be right

S!


- renmik - 22.04.2008

Hi Waggel,

very true Word, mate.

I also have tried, to tell some guys, that there are no worries about cheating...not more than before.
You may assume...they wouldn't believe.

So, I let them to their meanings. My experience is, early or later they try it out...for themselfes.

No other reason, that this community here has grow up so quickly.
So it is no need collide with 'the others' about mods.

About CRT=2-Servers: Ok, if the Admin don't wanna accept Mods in Game...your choise of connecting or not.

But one thing comes into my Mind:

If we all decide to change Version Number for modded Game to 5.xx ... there comes a Problem.

Let's asume, you're an Admin of a Game Server, and you allow Mods.
Your Host also is Version 5.xx, 'couse of enabled Mods.

You wanna have good Game...Cap. of 50 Player Slots...thx to your good System.

25 Players also have Mods...no Problem to connect.

But, whats about other 20 Players (they don't care about Mods) want to connect your Server,
they don't (wanna) use Mods...Timeout: wrong Version is running.

Your icredible Game is half the worth...only Mod-Users will enjoy your awesome Missions and thing.
If you ask me...in this Case you have 2 different communities...that would be a pitty.

Just my opinion, thx for reading.


- godverdoom - 22.04.2008

Well Renmik, i agree with these statements. But i also like to add that im from a country where people live who like to get for what they pay, and if there is a way to improve something for free, why not do it??

Yes, mixed feelings about the respect for the creators of the game. It is a difficult situation for sure.
I'm not a online player anymore, but we are all here for 1 reason, and that is reliability towards each other, and the authentic and accurate aim towards reality, and no cheating. Cheating it to wrap the truth around your finger. I do not see it here.

Accepting the truth is trying to help others, and to make the best of something that is already great.

In the aircraft maintenance we say: "Tender Love and Care"