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Northwestern Germany??? - LBR=Rademacher - 30.04.2008

I was thinking... A Northwestern Germany map would be a great adition to the game. The perfect stage for USAAF raids over germany and for late late war ground battles.

I got a Google Earth file that shows Luftwaffe bases in whole germany, so that's not an issue.

That's what i got so far:

[Image: map.jpg]

The problem is: i don't have a clue on what to do next. There's some walktrough around? I have SOME experience with Il-2, i designed the Berlin Template for the online campaigns that was used in CAD War sometime ago.

Obs: This picture is not the cropped one, i don't want to use this huge area, the idea is to have a map that will have the following german cities: Wilhelmshaven, Kiel, L

- asheshouse - 01.05.2008

Best start point is the MicroDem Tutorial by Clockwatcher.
(The link is inoperative)

This will explain how to use freely available satellite SRTM data to create the basic map files.

You will also need the map tools to be able to create map_c.tga
(The link is inoperative)

You need to have basic skills in using an image editing programme such as Photoshop or Gimp before you start.

Plan your map first.
The map scale is 50m per pixel for map_c or 200m per pixel for map_T and map_h.
map_c must be a multiple of 32 pixels in both x and y axes for the maps to work.

To get an idea of the file structure of a typical map extract the map files for one of the existing maps or download one of the modded maps and set it up in your MODS folder.

- LBR=Rademacher - 01.05.2008

Quote:To get an idea of the file structure of a typical map extract the map files for one of the existing maps or download one of the modded maps and set it up in your MODS folder.

That's a great idea. The other things i've done successfully. I'll keep playing around with this stuff. Photoshop skills ain't a problem.

- Phas3e - 01.05.2008

I hope this works out, at the moment I have had to create a fake Bonn airfield and pretend Berlin is Cologne for a wild boar mission im making

- I/JG27_Waggel - 02.05.2008

This map could be a great thing. I personally whould cut a little bit of the east side to get the map a little bit more into the west. So than you have a start point for b17 missions. A small brithish eastern coast. I also whould cut away the southern part of this map, because it would be too big. It whould take too much time to build up the cities of the "ruhrgebiet" (rhein ruhr district). This map whould include so many big cities like Hamburg, Bremen, Hannover, Berlin etc. etc.

- LBR=Rademacher - 02.05.2008

In fact my idea is to map only this part:

[Image: map_h.jpg]

Adding England would be hard and pointless. There are few people that would fly for several hours in a P-51 escorting B-17s only to be bounced by 109s over Germany, and then fly more several hours back to england.

- I/JG27_Waggel - 02.05.2008

Hmmm perhaps this one?

[Image: testro7.jpg]

Ok, it is not geographical correct. But there should be a chance to start with b17, p51 etc. If I want to fly to England, it makes not much fun to spawn in the air somewhere over the channel. I want to start my plane and I want to land my plane.

The same with b17 and p51. These guys dont want to spawn somewhere in the northsea. The want to fly to germany AND they want to fly back to their homebase.

- Trooper117 - 02.05.2008

So why go to the trouble to make a realistic NW Germany map if you are going to cobble the UK next to it in the wrong place??
If you are going to pretend thats where England sits just so you can take off and land.. any old bit of map would do for Germany too!
Before you go off on one, my perspective would be for the accurate map with just airstarts and finishes for allied aircraft.. but don't do away with the idea of people unwilling to fly long distances in a game, I can guarantee you there are camp followers out there that would want that, even if you don't want to entertain the idea others will..

- I/JG27_Waggel - 02.05.2008

[Image: testko3.jpg]

This whould be a realistic nw germany map with a little east coast of the UK. The map whould be VERY big but there is a lot of water. Geografical full real.

- LBR=Rademacher - 03.05.2008

Ok, but this map would be HUGE and would not represent the bigger cities in germany! I don't think i could do that.

And trooper, ok i think i would save me the trouble and stop this right now. Be my guest to try yourself.

- Trooper117 - 03.05.2008

Oh for gods sake.. stop being so touchy!
We are simply debating what may or not be achieved, thats what happens when you put this up on an open forum... if you can't stand that, and believe me, we weren't criticising your work, just 'brain storming' thats all..
If you really don't want any hint of debate, why post it up in the first place.. plus, YOU are the map maker and you decide its final format don't you?
Get some perspective for gods sake! :?

- deovis - 03.05.2008

Hi all

why dont you reduce the scale of the map, as Redfox have done for ItalyGreeceAfrica map, so that you can get the SE part of England and ALL,say ALL, the NW part of Germany like in the first picture in this thread? The map will save the geographical correctness and proportions but the time and distance of flights will be reduced for gameplay purposes!
The Redfox map is huge(murmansk map), i tried it online with him and other mates, and believe me even if its not in 1:1 scale it had worth the effort...you'll see when it'll be released!!!!
So if you want to continue to go ahead with your project including also part of England, seriously consider a scale reduction of the map!

- fly_zo - 03.05.2008

@LBR=Rademacher : you know you can't please all people here.... no matter what you do ....

don't get distracted by all of that ..... your project , your decision


cheers
Z

- LBR=Rademacher - 03.05.2008

deovis Wrote:Hi all

why dont you reduce the scale of the map, as Redfox have done for ItalyGreeceAfrica map, so that you can get the SE part of England and ALL,say ALL, the NW part of Germany like in the first picture in this thread? The map will save the geographical correctness and proportions but the time and distance of flights will be reduced for gameplay purposes!
The Redfox map is huge(murmansk map), i tried it online with him and other mates, and believe me even if its not in 1:1 scale it had worth the effort...you'll see when it'll be released!!!!
So if you want to continue to go ahead with your project including also part of England, seriously consider a scale reduction of the map!
That's actually a good idea.

- Thermikus - 04.05.2008

I think NW Germany is a great idea but i think a very important part is the city of Hamburg!

So many raids gone on Hamburg, on the harbour and the industrial part of the city.
But its just a suggestion.


keep up the good work!