Bf 109 V48 - Printable Version
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Bf 109 V48 - mmielli - 03.05.2008
I found BF-109G-03 (Bf 109 V48) V-tail Prototype , not to dificult to do, and will be nice adition for this game:
http://www.messerschmitt-bf109.de/displ ... nummer=940
http://www.messerschmitt-bf109.de/displ ... nummer=941
http://www.messerschmitt-bf109.de/displ ... nummer=942
http://www.messerschmitt-bf109.de/displ ... nummer=943
http://www.messerschmitt-bf109.de/displ ... ummer=5302
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Bf109F_4V.jpg
http://hsfeatures.com/features04/bf109g0vtail32ir_1.htm
- GentleKiller - 03.05.2008
was it made for a fighter role? if it was, then +12894 for the mod!
- Zorin - 03.05.2008
It was the testbed for V tails. Only one plane was converted.
- ROSOBORONEXPORTCORP - 03.05.2008
What were the results?
- vanir - 04.05.2008
I read somewhere it wasn't any significant change from a conventional tail. There was another prototype which tested blown flaps in France 43, which was intended to be used in the forthcoming K-series (could feature in a future K-14 mod perhaps).
What we really need for the 109 though is the carrier equipment conversion for the Graf Zeppelin now we have that in a ship pack, the Ju-87C and Me-109T-1, 2, 3, etc. (could be based on E-7, F-4, G-6 types respectively?) Maybe add a modified Fw-190A-6 for stuka replacement in a late war embarkment. Finally of course a carrier version of the 190D and F-8 should be in a 46 campaign.
- Guest - 04.05.2008
I love it, pant pant.
- handerson - 04.05.2008
WOW
hock:
- Zorin - 04.05.2008
http://old.messerschmitt-bf109.de/php-b ... ng-v48.php
- Take-off got worse
- inflight performance was similar to normal tail, but overall stability got worse
- gain of about 2,5km/h for top speed
- mmielli - 04.05.2008
No, i
- GentleKiller - 04.05.2008
Zorin Wrote:http://old.messerschmitt-bf109.de/php-bf109v/v48/erprobung-v48.php
- Take-off got worse
- inflight performance was similar to normal tail, but overall stability got worse
- gain of about 2,5km/h for top speed
do you mean that the speed gain varied between 2 km/h and 5km/h?
- Radoye - 04.05.2008
he probably means 2 1/2
- Zorin - 04.05.2008
Radoye Wrote:he probably means 2 1/2
Yes, we use to write it like this 2,5 in Germany
- ILV_Aquila_Noctis - 04.05.2008
Yep - 2,5 is the same as 2.5 :wink:
So, reading that Report you linked to, I see that the V-tail was not at all an improvement, but rather made it worse?
- Zorin - 04.05.2008
ILV_Aquila_Noctis Wrote:Yep - 2,5 is the same as 2.5 :wink:
So, reading that Report you linked to, I see that the V-tail was not at all an improvement, but rather made it worse?
Yes, basically it did.
- vanir - 05.05.2008
The V-tail was tested by Bell and gained the same findings. Tested on an XP-39 they found it lessened stability for an overall drag decrease. Conclusion: no reasonable net gain for the fitment and hassle of restructuring manufacture slightly.
The blown flaps idea seemed far more beneficial to 109 performance especially in later models (easing cadet proficiency requirements for the type), but was rejected AFAIK for similar economic reasons and necessitating significant production adjustments. The trick was in producing enough fighters to compete with three world powers at once, just in case you can manage to find the pilots to fly them. Serious upsets in production were judged to be better served introducing one of the many new types awaiting the opportunity for mass production to serve Germany's needs. The shift from radial engine Fw-190 production for further development of the 801 engine for example was from what I can tell to be used for widespread production of late D-subtypes and the Ta-152 series, whilst new facilties were engaging full scale for jet type production, from "volksj