Size Matters! Transports, Planes and Scale... - Printable Version

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- shakthamac - 01.07.2008

HundertzehnGustav Wrote:now before anyone starts kicking me in the nuts for DEMANDING things...
i d be more than willing to dig a few books or paste together a Frankenplane / frankenship in order to help get such a thing done.

painting anyway. thats the best part...

if you look at the ship mods already done, the size of some of the cargo ships have been increased 2x.

the cargo ship we have in game is not typical of the large scale ones used in the pacific by the allies, but rather more like a tramp steamer used on the smaller oceans in Europe and coastal atlantic/med, so therefore nothing is "wrong" with it.

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- duffys tavern - 01.07.2008

Ship Pak 1, has large tankers & transports. Helps out a lot. Liberty ship would be nice though.

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Re: Size Matters! Transports, Planes and Scale... - dimlee - 01.07.2008

HundertzehnGustav Wrote:If you compare the dry materiqal transporter to the CVEs, and i told you that many early CVEs were actually converted Cargoes, would you agree that the Cargoes in the Game are in fact wayyyy too small, and can only be compared to coastal merchant ships?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escort_carrier

do we need Cargoes to be as big as the CVEs, or almost as big?
also compare to the Planes...

I am just throwing this out there...

Wiki (using your link) gives following dimensions for 'typical' CVE: L=150m, B=20m, 7500 t (? GRT or Gross Reg. Tonnage, I guess...)
and on the same page we see list of many CVEs converted from freighters, etc - all of different tonnage, some are really large (for that time), almost 20,000, others just 8-9,000 GRT.

as we have only 2 types of merchant vessels (jap schooner exclud.), they should be most "typical" or average for 1940's... let's see...

Dimensions of some USSR cargo ships, dry and tankers, operated in WWII:
Name..............................Length/Beam, metres
dry(general) cargo:
Komsomol, ser.1&2...........111/15
Komsomol, ser.3&4...........121/16
Kalinin.............................114/15
Kuban..............................103/15
Kreml...............................140/17
Sergo...............................141/17
Michurin............................116/16
tankers:
Sovetskaya Neft................144/17
Vayan Kouturie..................140/17
Kreml...............................140/17
Moskva.............................125/17
I have included vessels built from 1925 to 1939. Older ships usually were smaller, with max L

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