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Schraege musik without TRACER BULLETS! - rust - 07.11.2008

Hi everybody!
There is interesting information that schraege musik guns didnt use tracer bullets in order to keep a Nightfighter invisible for bombers crew Smile


- Radoye - 07.11.2008

Probably none of the guns on nightfighters used tracers, only those watchamacallit incendiaries that give a flash when they hit something. The only thing that would give their position up were muzzle flashes of their guns.


- fly_zo - 07.11.2008

...moved to proper forum section


regards
Z


- rust - 07.11.2008

And i wonder whether it is possible to remove tracers from Nightfighters in IL-2?:wink:


- Klemm - 07.11.2008

I should be possible, but that would require a weapons modification and that is forbidden here at AAA. (For good reason.)


- fvk - 07.11.2008

Very interesting!


- OberstDanjeje - 08.11.2008

The night fighter used tracer.
In the Ju88G-1 landed in England was found almost all the bullets with tracer.
The night-tracer were less bright

"The belted loading-order of these guns was: one Armour-Piercing/Incendiary, two H.E./Incendiary-
Tracer, and two Incendiary/Tracer (night-trace or "glimmer"). A Zeiss Revi 16.D gun-sight is used in
conjunction with the forward-firing armament."

"The rearward firing armament consists of a single Rheinmetall-Borsig MG 131 of 13-mm. calibre in a
manually operate dorsal ring. 235 rounds were carried for this gun in a tank designed for 500, the
belted loading order being: one A.P./Tracer (night trace) and one H.E./Incendiary (night trace)."


- Carnagexxx - 08.11.2008

They could create special versions of the guns, only including them in new slot planes

so its not a WM change on original Il2 guns


- rust - 08.11.2008

It wiil be great if someone create special guns with less bright tracer/without tracer for new slot nightfighters Smile


- Carnagexxx - 08.11.2008

But for me special nightfighters are a stupid idea, because the AI has "radar" eyes in all directions.
You never could suprise them

or do i wrong ?


- rust - 08.11.2008

Nonetheless, it will improve historical accuracy Smile


- OberstDanjeje - 09.11.2008

The less bright tracer was used for not blind the pilot since his eyes were adapted to the dark and a bright tracer would have blinded him.


- VonBarb. - 09.11.2008

Carnagexxx Wrote:They could create special versions of the guns, only including them in new slot planes

so its not a WM change on original Il2 guns

I think that's what they did with the Me410D U6/R13.

Cheers

Nico