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Mod Request P-40 F Kittyhawk II-Warhawk - Loht773 - 20.03.2009

The P-40 F also known as "Kittyhawk II" and later with american built Rolls Royce Merlin engines

"Warhawk". The P-40 F was an E version powered with a british Rolls Royce Merlin engine.


"This experimental P-40D could be distinguished from the stock P-40E by the absence of the top-mounted carburetor air scoop. The Merlin engine did much to overcome the limitations imposed by the Allison, and a total of 1311 examples powered by the American-made version of the Merlin built by the Packard Motor Car Company were ordered under the designation P-40F."

I belive "The Forty" deserves better on Il-2 1946, its one hell of a fighter, it can out loop a Spitfire, Out turn a Messerschmitt, fight Zeros and try vertical combat with Focke Wulfs if handed carefully.

I belive the P-40 should get a more Powerfull engine, it would be lovley.

More Info:http://www.p40warhawk.com/Variants/P-40F.htm

What do you fellows think?

Are there any other variants of The Forty than deserves to be on Il-2?


Very best regards!


- Tesla - 20.03.2009

Shouldn't be hard to make, take the P-40M model, delete the carburetor, make a new slot and FM.
Much easier said than done with everything other than the modeling part.


Took 2 minutes to import, export, and edit. Are there any visual differences other than not having the carb?
[Image: P40F.jpg]


- RRuger - 20.03.2009

Hell yes!


- Tesla - 20.03.2009

[Image: File0345.jpg]


Can't read any of it, but it's some kind of technical info for a few variants, may help with FM, or may not.


- Birdman - 21.03.2009

Now that you're editing the P-40 model, you could easily correct the butterfly wings. Bee has tried that before, but without mesh editing a gap appears at the wingroots. The correction wouldn't even need a new slot, just import the wings back to IL-2 and everyone will be happy!

See this thread to know what I'm talking about: http://allaircraftsimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7562&start=75

Also notice that the nose is too long and tail too short in the original 3d model, but Bee has corrected that quite well by editing hier.him.


- Bee - 21.03.2009

The stock M has a nose that is much too long and a tail that is way too short. The spinner is too big and the dihedral is insanely out of whack. Anyone who is a real fan of the type can not help but cringe when they see the shabby Il-2 representation. By far the most innacurately modelled example in the game. Cry


- ColaBen - 21.03.2009

Hi'
Would be very nice with a proper P-40 F Confusedhock:
ColaBen


- Loht773 - 21.03.2009

Thanks Tesla!


Youre the man! :wink:


I dont think than anything is different from the P-40 E rather than the carburator but have a look here:

http://www.p40warhawk.com/Variants/P-40F.htm



Regards!


- Bee - 21.03.2009

Here a shot of the default P-40E's dreadful innacuracies...

[Image: before.jpg]

The M is no better either. :evil:

This is the one we need most though; more N models were produced of any other and saw the most widespread use. Some damn fine colour schemes too..! :wink:


[Image: p-40-a29-629-cleopatra.jpg]


- henkypenky - 21.03.2009

I'm with you on this one Bee, although the P-40 with your visual update flew much better than the original one. Or is that something that's between my ears? :wink:


- BH_Blue - 21.03.2009

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heres a comparison between a F and a E not too much of a noticable difference aside from the top scoop.


- walter_solito - 21.03.2009

Hi!

+1

This bird is another really needed or complete the ac list of this sim!

Hope someone will made it!!!!

cheers

walter


- Jaypack44 - 23.03.2009

actually, there are several differences between the E and F/L models of the P-40...
The most obvious is the absence of the carb scoop, but there is also the chin scoop (shape was changed pretty drastically), the rear fuselage (except on the early Fs, it was lengthened, similar to the M), the L was the same as the F, but lightened by the removal of some armor and two wing guns. I'd post a comparison, but I don't have my resources available at the moment.

*The -K and -N models would also be extremely worthwhile projects...


- Tooslow - 23.03.2009

I agree that both and F and N would be a good addition to IL2. The F being the high altitude version and the N as the most numerious. They would be a useful additions.

If I had a choice between the two I personally would chose the F model because the M is rather similar in performance to the N. The F is entirely different.


- Loht773 - 23.04.2009

Any news on this proyect?





Regards!