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No Joy In Joysticks - STRAW - 27.05.2009

Well ive come to the realization that there is no joy in joysticks after all these years of flight simming.
my first was a sidewinder wich i promptly gave away due to the return to center tension being to strong for my taste.
My next venture was the MSFFB 2 wich was great as long as didn't plug in the powersupply if you did occasionally it would have fits an try an shake itself off the desk, i used this stick for many years with no power supply in order to dissable the return to center an feed back.
With this arrangement the stick took a bit of getting use to at first but became natrual like an extension of your hand an once you had the in game settings dialed in you could fly with a very light hand.
Now this brings me to my latest a x52 pro wich has been a luv and hate, being able to create , switch between profiles and have a multitude of buttons to program and a light return to center is the luv.
The hate is even after dialing in the in game settings it still takes a fair amount of stick deflection before any noticable aircraft response an then its exponential no more slight stick pressure im flying more heavy handed than i ever did an i hate it.
Is there any way to increase the sticks responsiveness to its deflection at or near center without increasing the return spring tension or better yet by removing the return spring all together ?
As i seem to have 3/4 " of movement in all directions before a reply with the deadzones set to 0 in x52 controler software.

regards
Straw

- wraith - 27.05.2009

Have you tried altering the joystick curves in-game ?

main menu- hardware settup- input.

- JAMF - 27.05.2009

Or use a little utility to modify the stick's response curves externally (not in game menu that is):

IL2-JoyControl
http://mission4today.com/index.php?name ... ls&id=1021

...but I'm stealing Bearcat's answer here. Wink

- RAF_OldBuzzard - 27.05.2009

The X-52 already has a non-linear response by design. That makes setting up all of the various 'curves' something of an adventure, since what you see there isn't what you get when the non-linear response of the stick is added to them.

Probably the best way to set an X-52 up, and the way I do it it, is to go into the stick settings in the game, and set ALL of the sliders to 100%. I know that sounds 'odd' but trust me, it does work.

Then in your X-52 profiler, set a bit of a deadzone for the three axis, and you should be good to go.

Re: No Joy In Joysticks - eddie_brunette - 28.05.2009

STRAW Wrote:Well ive come to the realization that there is no joy in joysticks after all these years of flight simming.
my first was a sidewinder wich i promptly gave away due to the return to center tension being to strong for my taste.
My next venture was the MSFFB 2 wich was great as long as didn't plug in the powersupply if you did occasionally it would have fits an try an shake itself off the desk, i used this stick for many years with no power supply in order to dissable the return to center an feed back.
With this arrangement the stick took a bit of getting use to at first but became natrual like an extension of your hand an once you had the in game settings dialed in you could fly with a very light hand.
Now this brings me to my latest a x52 pro wich has been a luv and hate, being able to create , switch between profiles and have a multitude of buttons to program and a light return to center is the luv.
The hate is even after dialing in the in game settings it still takes a fair amount of stick deflection before any noticable aircraft response an then its exponential no more slight stick pressure im flying more heavy handed than i ever did an i hate it.
Is there any way to increase the sticks responsiveness to its deflection at or near center without increasing the return spring tension or better yet by removing the return spring all together ?
As i seem to have 3/4 " of movement in all directions before a reply with the deadzones set to 0 in x52 controler software.

regards
Straw

Hi, I understand your pain Smile

Have a look at this: http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/joystick/

I've done it, and not looking back. Mine is not exactly the same, as I dismantled my Logitech 3dPro and are using its pc-boards and motors as well.

The BU0836 controller is fantastic, and decent potentiometers make such a difference.

I'm in process of a custom BF109 cockpit as well for all the HOTAS to go in

edd

- JAMF - 28.05.2009

That link looks familiar!?


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