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Bristol Brabazon - Guest - 11.06.2009

British transport/bomber Korea following service in the invasion of Japan and Berlin by Allied forces 1946, (developement may have been sped up for the need for a large transport/para-dropper aircraft that could have carried up to 144,900 pounds of cargo or bomber aircraft that could possibly carry 2 or even 4 22,000 pound Grand Slam bombs). Seriously though this would make a beautiful addition to the world's greatest Flight simulator.
I see no problem in adding civilian aircraft to IL2 (for VIP protection missions and long range flights). Oleg Maddox has already announced that IL2's sucessor Storm of War will include A Sukhoi Su-26. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su-26 So I see no problem why civilian planes should not be included. Although some people may disagree. Civilian planes are more realistic than the Heinkel Lerche.

'Quote from Wikipedia'
'The Bristol Type 167 Brabazon was a large airliner, designed by the Bristol Aeroplane Company to fly transatlantic routes from the United Kingdom to the United States. The prototype was delivered in 1949, only to prove a commercial failure when airlines felt the plane was too large and expensive to be useful. Despite its size, comparable to a Boeing 747, it was designed to carry only 100 passengers, albeit in roomy conditions not generally found on modern aircraft. In the end, only a single prototype was flown; it was broken up in 1953 for scrap, along with an uncompleted second fuselage.

In 1943, a British government committee met under the leadership of Lord Brabazon of Tara to investigate the needs of the British civil airliner market.

The Brabazon Committee delivered a report, known as the "Brabazon Report", calling for the construction of four of five designs they had studied. Type I was a large transatlantic airliner, Type III a smaller airliner for the Empire air routes, and Type IV a jet powered 500 mph (800 km/h) airliner. The Type I and IV were considered to be very important to the industry, notably the jet powered Type IV which would give the UK a commanding lead in jet transports.

Bristol had already studied a large bomber design starting as early as 1937, but nothing had come of this. In 1942 the Air Ministry published a tender for a new super-heavy bomber design, and Bristol dusted off their original work and updated it for their newer and much more powerful Bristol Centaurus engines. This led to a design with a range of 5,000 mi (8,000 km), 225 ft (69 m) wing span, eight engines buried in the wings driving four pusher propellers, and enough fuel for transatlantic range. This "100 ton bomber" and designs from the other major manufacturers were in many ways the British analogues to the American Convair B-36. However the Air Ministry later changed their mind and decided to continue development of the Avro Lancaster, (leading to the Avro Lincoln) instead.


Bristol Brabazon main undercarriage wheelsA year later, the Brabazon Report was published and Bristol was able to respond with a slightly modified version of their bomber to fill the needs for the Type I requirement. Their earlier work was the sort of performance the Brabazon committee was looking for, and they were given a contract for two prototype aircraft. After further work on the design, a final concept was published in November 1944. It was for a 177 ft (54 m) fuselage with 230 ft (70.1 m) wingspan (35 ft/11 m more than a Boeing 747) powered by eight Bristol Centaurus 18-cylinder radial engines nested in pairs in the wing. These drove eight paired contra-rotating propellers on four forward-facing nacelles.

The Brabazon Report was backward-thinking in one aspect, however. When considering the people who would fly in the aircraft they designed, they thought in the context of wealthy people or those on governmental work as being the only ones able to afford air travel at that point. The idea that a larger aircraft would make flying less expensive, and thereby open the market to a wider clientele, never appears to have occurred to them.[citation needed] Instead they assumed that the wealthy flying the plane would consider a long trip by air to be uncomfortable, and they designed the Type I for luxury, demanding 200 ft

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- KG64_Cnopicilin - 12.06.2009

is this a request?

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- Rockcoons - 09.07.2009

Nice plane. I like flying big planes. You feel more.... secure :lol:

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- Guest - 09.07.2009

I'd like to see the Hughes H-4 Hercules for the same reasons. This flying city could carry two tanks, 750 troops, or 420 stretcfher cases. To this day, it's still the largest plane in the world by wingspan.

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- XB-49 - 09.07.2009

Same here. (I was Striker until I decided to change my email adress.)

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- American - 09.07.2009

MustangNF Wrote:I'd like to see the Hughes H-4 Hercules for the same reasons. This flying city could carry two tanks, 750 troops, or 420 stretcfher cases. To this day, it's still the largest plane in the world by wingspan.

This was like back in 07.

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- Guest - 09.07.2009

Yeah... Unfortuantely, that looks like an unfinished frakenplane. It would be great to have the Hercules as a totally new plane. I would love to have the original XF-11 with the contras too. I love Hughes' planes.



Anyways, back to massive transports, would anyone be interested in making either of these huge birds? That would be awesome... I would be more than happy to provide all the data necessary.

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- XB-49 - 10.07.2009

American's frankenplane reminds me of this.




The Vickers Type C.

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- Guest - 10.07.2009

I like it... I'd still take a B-35B with P-51J escort over it any day, but I like it.

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- ={TTU}=Kiwibird - 22.07.2009

I vote for the Vickers Type C thing.

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- rossmum - 22.07.2009

Funny, I thought this was a thread about the Brabazon...

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