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Nvidia 3D Vision - Paulo Hirth - 18.07.2009
So I have to admit after playing and fooling around with the kit for a couple of days now, I do seem to like it a lot. The best way of describing this technology is that it is adding a new level of depth to your gaming experience. The perception of depth in game is intriguing, interesting and really a lot of fun.
Playing tricks on your brain also has a side effect, since you are looking and actively participating in a 3D environment, that grey matter of yours will tend to get much more active and get tired. I tell you, playing longer than an hour in 3D is absolutely fun... but (at least for me) tiresome. It's not just the depth perception being the bigger factor there, no you constantly have to refocus with your eyes a little when you look from left to right for example. But well, you get used to everything I guess and in the long run your brain will get used to this experience as well. I mentioned it in the article a little, ghosting is a tiny bit of an issue as well. Though admittedly... it's nothing huge and really a lot better then everything we have tested in the past.
But yeah, overall the technology is properly implemented and a heck of a lot of fun.
Now, I've invited some mates of mine to check out the technology as well, and while they were playing I observed them. All three of them had the initial wow factor as well. They all felt that this is an enjoyable and good working, properly implemented set of shutter glasses. They feel it's much better than everything we have seen in the past. Two out of the three guys however stated that while enjoying this experience, they would probably not buy this kit. It was too complex on their eyes and mind. These two, both after 15-20 minutes, caved in and had had enough. One other guy was really into it. And when I asked him if he'd buy a kit like that he said he'd definitely opt for it.
When I asked the last guy the following question, would you pay 475 EUR for both the monitor and 3D shutter glasses kit? His answer was no without any hesitation. He felt that it's just not worth that kind of money. And that's exactly in line with the generic consensus I have and had prepared for this conclusion.
NVIDIA's 3D Vision kit is fun, it adds a niche factor to your gaming experience. But for the very same reasons it had in 2003, it's just not for everybody.
NVIDIA did good though. They are striving for the best possible quality and that shows. The combo of the Samsung 120 Hz LCD monitor and this kit is done properly. The 3D experience works really well, provided you have a decent performing graphics card though. The 3D shutter glasses kit itself is of course done really well. No longer do we see the nerdy glasses, these look like a set of sunglasses. The glasses are comfortable and very important, can be worn over prescription glasses or in combo with contact lenses. We like the fact that you can charge the glasses with a little USB cable, and with the push of a button 3D gaming is enabled. No more need for weird hotkey combinations either, in the past you had to activate 3D with a hotkey combo. Also the scroll-wheel on the back of the IR transmitter is golden as well. Here you can quickly fine-tune how much depth you want in the game, as it differs per person how much a person can actually take or get used to. NVIDIA made the entire process really easy to use.
Also, and I just wanted to add this in the conclusion, 3D stereoscopic imagery does not end with playing games. There is a big world out there loaded with 3D photos and movies, this kit can be utilized for that as well.
And that has to be my conclusion, the GeForce 3D stereo kit is done well, really well. It is very complete and well thought through. But the fact remains that we doubt a little that there's a large crowd out there that is willing to pay 475 EUR for it, making it once again a product for a very small user base. Purchase the glasses alone, and you are still out 175 EUR. Also, 3D stereo gaming is not for everybody, if anything the entire history of kits like these have proven that. But sure... this kit works as advertised, and where other kits have failed in the past... this is a colossal step forward and the overall implementation just works out really well.
But my man, if you feel it is worth the money, then sure... it is fun, oh heck yeah, a lot of fun!
(www.guru3d.com)
- genbrien - 18.07.2009
great review!
One question : what happen when you have less than 120fps....
- Dietz - 18.07.2009
Sounds interesting...but my FPS maximum seems to be about 45 & dips far below that in heavy action...would this be a problem?
Where can I get it? How much & is it easy to install?
- letku - 18.07.2009
Man, i hate all the 3d mumbojumbo tv, movies and glasses cause they give me always terrible headaches.
- si1va - 18.07.2009
genbrien Wrote:great review!
One question : what happen when you have less than 120fps....
I has nothing to do with frames per second (fps) but with the refresh rate of your monitor. Older LCD screens run at 60Hz which is too slow for use with shutter glasses. The newer 120Hz models allow shutter glasses to work by allowing the shutter to work at an effective 60Hz for each eye.
It has also been noted that you will need a very hefty video card to get decent results with 3D stereo as the software needs to produce the same viewing image for each eye at a slightly different angle to show a better feel of depth. This lead to a performance hit of up to 50% compared to running a game without 3D.
An interesting review over at Guru3D http://www.guru3d.com/article/nvidia-ge ... n-review/1
- Blindowl - 18.07.2009
Nvidia LOL,,when they pay me to use their products I just "might" think about it.
I've owned my fare share of their junk,and they can keep their glass' and whatever else they come up with :roll:
- Blix - 18.07.2009
Sounds great, but 60hz just isnt enough. If I had used it all the time I fly, I would be already dead (or brain damaged).
- genbrien - 18.07.2009
si1va Wrote:yeah I know. I meant.... if its less than 120... is the 3d less atractive ???genbrien Wrote:great review!
One question : what happen when you have less than 120fps....
I has nothing to do with frames per second (fps) but with the refresh rate of your monitor. Older LCD screens run at 60Hz which is too slow for use with shutter glasses. The newer 120Hz models allow shutter glasses to work by allowing the shutter to work at an effective 60Hz for each eye.
It has also been noted that you will need a very hefty video card to get decent results with 3D stereo as the software needs to produce the same viewing image for each eye at a slightly different angle to show a better feel of depth. This lead to a performance hit of up to 50% compared to running a game without 3D.
An interesting review over at Guru3D http://www.guru3d.com/article/nvidia-ge ... n-review/1
- Blix - 18.07.2009
genbrien Wrote:si1va Wrote:yeah I know. I meant.... if its less than 120... is the 3d less atractive ???genbrien Wrote:great review!
One question : what happen when you have less than 120fps....
I has nothing to do with frames per second (fps) but with the refresh rate of your monitor. Older LCD screens run at 60Hz which is too slow for use with shutter glasses. The newer 120Hz models allow shutter glasses to work by allowing the shutter to work at an effective 60Hz for each eye.
It has also been noted that you will need a very hefty video card to get decent results with 3D stereo as the software needs to produce the same viewing image for each eye at a slightly different angle to show a better feel of depth. This lead to a performance hit of up to 50% compared to running a game without 3D.
An interesting review over at Guru3D http://www.guru3d.com/article/nvidia-ge ... n-review/1
In theory if you use standart 60hz LCD you wil get 30hz on one eye... you will puke yourself to death XD
But practically it wont work, the 120hz LCD is part of the whole principle, you cant take it away.
- genbrien - 18.07.2009
Blix Wrote:geez.... sry if I'm not clear.... :xgenbrien Wrote:si1va Wrote:yeah I know. I meant.... if its less than 120... is the 3d less atractive ???genbrien Wrote:great review!
One question : what happen when you have less than 120fps....
I has nothing to do with frames per second (fps) but with the refresh rate of your monitor. Older LCD screens run at 60Hz which is too slow for use with shutter glasses. The newer 120Hz models allow shutter glasses to work by allowing the shutter to work at an effective 60Hz for each eye.
It has also been noted that you will need a very hefty video card to get decent results with 3D stereo as the software needs to produce the same viewing image for each eye at a slightly different angle to show a better feel of depth. This lead to a performance hit of up to 50% compared to running a game without 3D.
An interesting review over at Guru3D http://www.guru3d.com/article/nvidia-ge ... n-review/1
In theory if you use standart 60hz LCD you wil get 30hz on one eye... you will puke yourself to death XD
But practically it wont work, the 120hz LCD is part of the whole principle, you cant take it away.
I was asking if you have a 120hz monitor, but running a game with less than 120fps.....like crysis at 55-65 fps
- Blix - 19.07.2009
genbrien Wrote:Blix Wrote:geez.... sry if I'm not clear.... :xgenbrien Wrote:si1va Wrote:yeah I know. I meant.... if its less than 120... is the 3d less atractive ???genbrien Wrote:great review!
One question : what happen when you have less than 120fps....
I has nothing to do with frames per second (fps) but with the refresh rate of your monitor. Older LCD screens run at 60Hz which is too slow for use with shutter glasses. The newer 120Hz models allow shutter glasses to work by allowing the shutter to work at an effective 60Hz for each eye.
It has also been noted that you will need a very hefty video card to get decent results with 3D stereo as the software needs to produce the same viewing image for each eye at a slightly different angle to show a better feel of depth. This lead to a performance hit of up to 50% compared to running a game without 3D.
An interesting review over at Guru3D http://www.guru3d.com/article/nvidia-ge ... n-review/1
In theory if you use standart 60hz LCD you wil get 30hz on one eye... you will puke yourself to death XD
But practically it wont work, the 120hz LCD is part of the whole principle, you cant take it away.
I was asking if you have a 120hz monitor, but running a game with less than 120fps.....like crysis at 55-65 fps
Yeah I got you a little wrong. (the same as si1va did)
The depth will be there always, it doesnt matter how much FPS you have.