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FlakVierling 38 - Kikusai - 03.09.2009

Hi everybody!
This nasty piece of FlaK was pretty common, at least on the western front. AFAIK, no one ever tried to modellize it.
So, could one of you drop an eye on this topic, could make airfield attacks a bit more tricky.
Thanks and keep up the good work.
Cheers.

- Luke5skywalker4 - 03.09.2009

I thought that it was in-game? Although it is on a German half-track, I believe.

- GF_Mastiff - 03.09.2009

yes I have seen it it is in IL2...

- RedChico - 03.09.2009

Wrong subforum and its in the game.

- ArcticViper - 03.09.2009

Moved to correct section.

- Kikusai - 03.09.2009

OK Arctic, thanks for moving.
RedChico, it's effectively present in the game, but on a half-track, not as a fixed artillery item. And a half track is a much bigger target than the FlaKVier38.

- RedChico - 03.09.2009

Kikusai Wrote:OK Arctic, thanks for moving.
RedChico, it's effectively present in the game, but on a half-track, not as a fixed artillery item. And a half track is a much bigger target than the FlaKVier38.

Ok then, it should be pretty easy then, chop it off the Sd.Kfz. 7 and create a crucifix mount.

- Kopfdorfer - 03.09.2009

Gents,

Unless you have a Mod I don't, the FlaKvierling 38 is not in the game per se, though it is the main armament on the FlaKPzIV/20 (Whirblewind) which is.
The halftrack (unarmoured) version of the FlaKvierling 38 was the Sdkfz 7/1 which is not in the original game, at least up until IL2-1946 v4.09Bm.
The FlaKvierling 38 (4 x 20mm cannon) was first built for the Kriegsmarine.
My reference source shows production figures as follows :
FlaKvierling 38 4x20mm (T) 3,806 in service with the Luftwaffe in Jan 1945
Sdkfz 7/1 (unarmoured halftrack) 319 Built
FlaKPzIV/20 (open topped armoured FlaK on PzkwIV chassis)) 105 Built (first use with Panzer Lehr in Normandy)

This thread does show us that the makings of several important weapon systems are in the game if not in all their forms, which means that there in game capability is already mapped, and an enterprising artist could provide a number of such interesting weapons/weapon systems with a little elbow grease - I unfortunately am no graphic artist.
Examples of what it seems to me could be readily available additions :
StuGIIIB StuGIII with the 75mm/L24 short howitzer used on ingame PzkwIVE, F1
SPW 251/9 SPW 251 with 75mm/L24 short howitzer of same
SPW 251/2 SPW 251 81mm Mtr Carrier
SPW 251/sMG SPW 251 with 3 x MG '42
SPW 251/10 SPW 251 with 3.7cm PaK 35/36
SPW 251/3 and 6 Radio and Command - Antenna(s)
SPW 251/7 SPW 251 Bridging Equipment
SPW 251/21 SPW 251 plus treble 15mm or 20mm cannon
SPW 251/22 SPW 251 plus 75mm PaK 40 ATG

SPW 251 series are 3-tonne armoured halftracks

SPW 250 series similar vehicle 1-tonne
SPW 250/9 SPW 250 plus a turret mounted 20mm used extensively for recon in Russia

FlaKvierling 38 4 x 20mm (T) AAA
FlaKzwilling 38 2 x 20mm (T) AAA
MG 34 zwilling 2 x 7.92 MG on a tripod/unipod
Kfz 4 Kubelwagen + MG34 zwilling

Marder II Pz II Chassis mounting an open topped PaK 40 75mm ATG
Marder IIr Pz II Chassis mounting a nopen topped Russian 76.2mm ATG
PzJager III/IV Nashorn or Hornisse PzkwIII or IV chassis mounting an 88mm PaK 43/41
PzAIII/IV Hummel PzkwIII/IV chassis plus 150mm howitzer
sIG38(t) chassis of the Pzkw38(t) - same as Marder III - plus 150mm howitzer


2.0 cm FlaK LKW Opel Blitz plus a 20mm FlaK 30 o. 38 mounted on the open bed
3.7cm FlaK LKW Opel Blitz plus a 37mm FlaK 36 o. 37 mounted on the bed

US M15MGMC M3 ht with a 37mm AAA and 2 x .50 cal mounted on a turret on the bed
M51 4 x .50 cal (T) Same rig as on the M16MGMC on a small trailer
US 2 1/2 Ton Truck plus a .50 or .30 cal AA MG mounted on the frame

these are just the ones off the top of my head without the game open to examine the vehicle and armour and artillery objects.


Kopfdorfer

- Kikusai - 08.09.2009

Chico, should I be able to do it, I would not have posted a request, but a mod... Which I am 200% unable to achieve. So, consider it a kind request to fellow modders.