Caudron CR.714 "Cyclone" FlightModel DISCUSSION! - Printable Version

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Caudron CR.714 "Cyclone" FlightModel DISCUSSION! - philhl - 23.10.2009

Hey all!

I'd like to start here a discussion about a possible flight model for the Caudron CR.714!

THIS IS NOT A HOW TO DO OR WHAT EVER DISCUSSION!

What do you think?:

- The Wings have less m

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- ColaBen - 23.10.2009

Hi'
The Finn's vere not pleased with its take off performance. Polish pilot's flew them during the Battle of France.
ColaBen

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- III/JG53>Max - 23.10.2009

take a hurricane MK IIb flightmodel, its not as fast as 109 E , but turns better- as you said. or make a whole new Fm, but thats a hell of work

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- caldrail - 23.10.2009

A smaller wing area means a higher wing loading (weight per area of wing surface). This has various implications including a longer take off run, since a smaller wing needs to be travelling faster to generate the same amount of lift. With a lightweight racing aeroplane, this might be offset to some degree. However (and I'm speculating here) the Finns were very keen of aeroplanes that could operate in and out of short fields, something they specialised in and a matter of disbelief and horror to the more cautious German personnel they got the 109G's from.

Also, the climb rate might suffer. Whilst the Caudron was designed to travel forward as quickly as practicable, this doesn't mean the wings are going to generate enough lift to give the aeroplane a spectacular climb rate, a very useful commodity in combat and essential for interception. Off hand, I'm not sure how the roll rate will be affected, as this is also influenced by such things as wingspan, aileron size, and so forth.

On the plus side, higher wing loadings usually produce smoother flight.

For info from people who know more than me....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wing_loading

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- NNFFL=YLB= - 23.10.2009

if this plane was underpowered, very weak gunpower (only 4x 7.5mm 300rpg) and the renault 12R03 hate overspeed
it was also very very light with 1400kg empty and a take off weight of 1750kg!
with its small wing area of 12.5m2 he was faster than a ms406 with 486km/h recorded!

thus he had the same speed and armement of a H-75A1....

the Cr.714 was fly by valiant and determited polish pilots only in one squadron (CG I/145) (a dozen of victory for 4 pilot lost)
after the 11 june they will go in england where they contribute to a memorable way the Battle of Britain

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- Dudok22 - 23.10.2009

try to ask kwiatek on ultrapack site his FMs are very realistic

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