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Other Mod Packs??? - European Snake - 02.11.2009
Okay, if I'm not allowed to post about stuff from other mod sites, just tell me and I'll remove this, but I've got a question.
I thought I was decently versed in my IL2 mods, but now I'm hearing about SAS and Ultrapack. What are these and how are they different from AAA? I knew the Russians had some but thats all I knew up to now. How many other mod packs are there? Ect. Just give me the basic rundown. Thanks.
- Scharnhorst1943 - 02.11.2009
First - You can post links to other mod sites. That is not an issue. You can find SAS forum here:
http://specialaircraftservice.com/main/index.php
Second - SAS forum caters more to offline crowd. They have mods that change the originals that we have. A primary example is the Avenger. The SAS mod site has gone in and changed the Avengers FM's to make them realistic and actually flyable. They also have opening canopies for all hurricanes and Avengers ... plus some other stuff. SAS has also taken some mods that were born here at AAA and given them new slots. The He 219 was first started here at AAA, but it never got it's own slot. SAS guys took the mod and gave it an FM and a slot. So the main difference is that AAA primarily caters to online play and online compatibility, where SAS caters more to offline play. (It does not matter about online compatibility issues if you are not flying online. Several canopy mods cause wierd issues online, so AAA does not use them.)
Lastly, the "Run-Down" -
You have two mod sites with two mod packs. They are NOT compatible. However, individually you can have both AAA and SAS mods working together. I mayself have done this. I forwarn you ... it is not for inexperienced people to do easily. You better be pretty damn comfortable with doing manual installs if you go this route. But it is possible.
If you attempt this, I would reccomend the following:
1) in order to have both AAA and SAS mods, you MUST use the SAS buttons. Reguardless. Period.
2) get Jonesoft Generic Mod Enabler. This will make manual mod installs very easy and better to fix if a mod does not work.
3) do a search and follow what others have done to get 4.09 + UI_1.2 + SAS mods installed. I can tell you what I have done, but there is plenty of posts around.
Hope this helped.
- peybolman - 03.11.2009
ultrapack UP1.8 is being released this week
http://il2ultrapack.net46.net/index.php
- fly_zo - 03.11.2009
... you are very welcome to post stuff from other sites .... just please no links nor adverts for mods which may be against our rules :
- any mod which edits FM, WM or DM for stock planes
- any mod which alters other people's projects ( without permission from author) .... including modding 4.09 stuff (originally by Daidalos team)
other than that .... knock yourself out with links :wink:
reg
Z
- David603 - 04.11.2009
fly_zo Wrote:- any mod which alters other people's projects ( without permission from author) .... including modding 4.09 stuff (originally by Daidalos team)So.....just because I'm curious, how is modding Daidalus Team's work different from modding things found in Il2 up to and including the 4.08m patch?
Not trying to cause trouble or anything, but this seems to be the same issue to me.
I can see why you should not take other peoples work without acknowledging it, but since the whole concept of modding Il2 is based around people taking Oleg Maddox's work, using and altering it without permision, this would appear to be double standards.
Regards
- fly_zo - 04.11.2009
David603 Wrote:fly_zo Wrote:- any mod which alters other people's projects ( without permission from author) .... including modding 4.09 stuff (originally by Daidalos team)So.....just because I'm curious, how is modding Daidalus Team's work different from modding things found in Il2 up to and including the 4.08m patch?
Not trying to cause trouble or anything, but this seems to be the same issue to me.
I can see why you should not take other peoples work without acknowledging it, but since the whole concept of modding Il2 is based around people taking Oleg Maddox's work, using and altering it without permision, this would appear to be double standards.
Regards
it's really simple .... 4.08 and all of 1C stuff was/is finished product ... Oleg stated at the time: work on IL2 is finished !
now since he has changed his mind ... we can't undo what's being done .
At the other hand Daidalos Team actively works on their projects and plans regular updates ... so messing with their files will only complicate life for us (modders) them (official addons) and at the end you ( final user) .
It's not just DT's work we are refusing to mod ... it's relay anybodies project for which we don't have permission . For example Raf_Magpie's projects ( cockpit for magister etc..) or messing with Swordfish ( by Maratz and team) .
reg
Z
- David603 - 04.11.2009
fly_zo Wrote:it's really simple .... 4.08 and all of 1C stuff was/is finished product ... Oleg stated at the time: work on IL2 is finished !Say you (or I) wanted to build a new version of a plane that DT have added, maybe create an Avia B-534-I from the B-534-IV or something similar. Would this be viewed as acceptable?
now since he has changed his mind ... we can't undo what's being done .
At the other hand Daidalos Team actively works on their projects and plans regular updates ... so messing with their files will only complicate life for us (modders) them (official addons) and at the end you ( final user) .
It's not just DT's work we are refusing to mod ... it's relay anybodies project for which we don't have permission . For example Raf_Magpie's projects ( cockpit for magister etc..) or messing with Swordfish ( by Maratz and team) .
reg
Z
Regards
- fly_zo - 04.11.2009
David603 Wrote:fly_zo Wrote:it's really simple .... 4.08 and all of 1C stuff was/is finished product ... Oleg stated at the time: work on IL2 is finished !Say you (or I) wanted to build a new version of a plane that DT have added, maybe create an Avia B-534-I from the B-534-IV or something similar. Would this be viewed as acceptable?
now since he has changed his mind ... we can't undo what's being done .
At the other hand Daidalos Team actively works on their projects and plans regular updates ... so messing with their files will only complicate life for us (modders) them (official addons) and at the end you ( final user) .
It's not just DT's work we are refusing to mod ... it's relay anybodies project for which we don't have permission . For example Raf_Magpie's projects ( cockpit for magister etc..) or messing with Swordfish ( by Maratz and team) .
reg
Z
Regards
yes if added as new plane and if you get permission for using their files (Daidalos Team)
as DT offers their work free of charge ... the only way we can "repay" them is by respecting their files
reg
Z