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I need some help with my Jet Campaign - Hairog - 18.11.2009

I need some constructive criticism from anyone who is interested.

Storyline for 1946 WWIII

Chapter one

January 23, 1946

Stalin's former allies have demobilized entire armies and have sent many of their armed forces home. The US and England have a fraction of their former forces stationed on the European mainland and have shown no backbone in resisting Soviet incursions. The only thing holding Stalin back from his vision of a communist Europe dominated by the USSR is the fear of the American nuclear bomb.

He has seen the devastation it has brought to the Empire of Japan. Although he has no doubt that his armed forces can storm through the blasted hulk of the former Germany and France he is held in check by the fear of nuclear destruction from the skies.

In addition his former allies are gathering far too many of the German scientists and their wonder weapons and stealing them away to work on even more destructive weapons and delivery systems. Comrade Stalin needs to create a buffer so that the motherland is never subject to attack again. His vision is that all future wars will be fought in the no mans land that is the former Nazi homeland and he is convinced that there will be more wars despite the American atomic bomb. It's all a matter of where and when these wars will be fought because Capitalism and Communism cannot occupy the same space.

Some say the second atomic bomb that was dropped on Nagasaki was a demonstration for Stalin's benefit and to reinforce the power of the atom bomb in his mind. In addition it was to demonstrate that America has not only one but many bombs and is ready to use them. The plan has worked until today.

Today Stalin receives word through his spy master and massive network of agents that American has a total of only 6 nuclear bombs. Previously he believed that they had many more and this fear is the only thing that kept his ambitions in check. With this news the plan for the domination of Western Europe begins. No longer will the West be allowed to dictate it's will on the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and Stalin. He will once and for all remove the threat to Mother Russia.

A massive and very well concealed mobilization begins.

D-day is May 1st...International Workers Day...May Day and the May Day Parade in Berlin, East Germany is complete with the usual massive flybys of Soviet aircraft. There has been a change from previous flybys in Moscow. The aircraft are flying from East to West and in numbers never before seen. An awe inspiring sight for all to behold. And this year there is a bonus feature to the flyby... the aircraft are armed and have been given orders to ATTACK!


May 1st, 1946

The Soviet forces fan out from the Mayday Parade in Berlin and attack their former allies in West Berlin and in occupied West Germany. Most of our forces are caught off guard and slaughtered where they stand.


- coatesy75 - 18.11.2009

rigt you need a GLOSTER METEOR then lol as do we ALL NOW Big Grin


- Hairog - 18.11.2009

My first go round will use only stock planes and maps. Then I'll get into the mods. Big Grin


- 911dan - 18.11.2009

Assuming Stalin only wanted to occupy the former Reich, it would be a very short campaign. Soviet ground forces could have blitzed across W. Germany in a week under the conditions you suggest >>"Stalin's former allies have demobilized entire armies and have sent many of their armed forces home. " By the time Truman could have mobilized, the Reds would have taken over France and the "Low Countries" too. Are you creating a "BoB '46"?


- Hairog - 18.11.2009

This is just the first chapter. Basically I am following the scenario planned out by the Joint Chiefs of Staff in 1947 named Griddle. They envisioned a fall back all the way to the Pyrenees Mountains near the Spain/French border. Then a strategic bombing campaign from Egypt aimed at the oil producing regions in the Caucasus were 70% of their supply and production are located. All within range of the B29 and escorts.

Here is ...

Chapter Two

May 6th, 1946
West Berlin falls

May 11th, 1946

Online Map 2 represents West Germany
Two missions
The Soviets onslaught continues with the newly formed NATO Alliance barley able to catch it's breath. 2 missions of trying to stop and protect fleeing NATO forces.

May 19th, 1946
Two missions
Online map 1 represents an area near the Belgium and German border.
Resistance starts to stiffen and the Soviets receive a bloody nose.

May 24th, 1946
Ardennes Map
Three missions
The French make an all out heroic stand and halt the Soviet forces for a few days. The Soviets halt and regroup before pushing on.

June 6th
NW Europe map
Four missions
The NATO strength starts to gather and newer equipment starts to show up on the battle field. The Soviet forces are actually held in check at a few crucial bridgeheads. Paris falls but the French fight on along with their NATO allies.

June 12
Normandy map
5 missions
The navy joins the fight and stops the Red Army at the shoreline using massive firepower from battleships and an air superiority battle breaks out over who will control the French coastline. A massive attempt by Soviet forces to destroy the NATO naval power preventing their ground forces from advancing are launched. The naval forces launch counter attacks on the Soviet airbases and ground forces.

July 9th
Online Map 4 represents the Spain/French border, The Pyrenees Line
8 missions
According to Plan Griddle envisioned by the Joint Chiefs of Staff ... this is the last line of resistance. The retreat is over and they shall not pass. The Soviet forces slam into the Pyrenees Line and try to hammer their way through.
Both sides pull out all the stops and use all their collective wonder weapons in an attempt to bring defeat to their opponent. Nothing is held back and anything that can fly, roll or crawl is put into the fight. The two heavy weights go toe to toe with no quarter given. Hay makers are thrown and damage is taken but there is no knock out blow.

August 7th, 1946

A breakthrough had occurred in atomic weapons technology by NATO scientists and the W-9 Artillery shell program is modified towards making a 1000 lb 15KT atomic bomb. 4 of these bombs are produced at great expense. This bomb has the same destructive ability as "Fat Man" but 1/8th the size.

At the same time Naval aviation designers are modifying the GO 229 with the capability of being launched from an aircraft carrier and have the capability of delivering the new W-9 atomic bomb.

British MI-6 urges a desperate plan and NATO comes in through the back door of the Baltic and launches 2 GO 229s from the CV 10 USS Yorktown carrying modified W-9 atomic warheads.

Minsk and Warsaw no longer exist.

Both are key supply and rail hubs. As invisioned by MI-6, three Soviet armies are caught in transit. 2100 tanks and 250,000 men women and children are incinerated by two GO 229 stealth bombers sneaking in under the radar and two 15KT W-9 atomic warheads.

The first major Soviet offensive is halted and both sides dig in.

If I get more interest Chapter 3 tomorrow...


- 911dan - 18.11.2009

Just FYI:

North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) is an intergovernmental military alliance based on the North Atlantic Treaty which was signed on April 4, 1949.

:wink:


- Hairog - 18.11.2009

I know the premise is that they form in emergency session when the Soviets attack. Do you think it is too far fetched? I didn't know what else to call the alliance of Germany/England/France/US. Any ideas on how to make it better?


- 911dan - 19.11.2009

Slightly less far fetched than Stalin pointing a loaded revolver at his head and pulling the trigger, because his spy master told him "it only has 5 bulltets".


- Hairog - 19.11.2009

911dan Wrote:Slightly less far fetched than Stalin pointing a loaded revolver at his head and pulling the trigger, because his spy master told him "it only has 5 bulltets".


Ha. Good analogy. But I need something better to justify the campaign.

Keep this in mind...according to Plan Griddle the Joint Chiefs of staff themselves figured it would take 70 nukes to bring the USSR to it's knees.

So to me the analogy is more like this. Stalin sees his former allies as a threat and they have a loaded machine gun pointed in his direction. Currently they are in the same room and there are 70 men, women and children between him and that machine gun. He then finds out that there are only 6 bullets in that machine gun instead of 70 or more needed to make sure that he is killed. If he can move fast enough and get those people to force that machine gun out of the room they will not be able to threaten him again. In addition they will not be able to shoot at him without killing some of those people. In effect they are his hostages. He knows that his former allies have shown great reluctance in the past to killing innocent people.

Stalin is a proven mass murderer who has already kill millions of his own people including many of his most loyal and talented military leaders. He is a sociopath with no remorse that only cares about his own wants and needs. He is one of the most ruthless people who have ever lived. He has a massive ego that constantly needs reinforcement. His only immediate concern is his own life.

In his mind the best way he can prevent a nuclear bomb from incinerating him personally is to put enough distance and innocent people between him and that bomb. He needs to make sure he personally is out of range from any delivery system yet devised that can carry a nuke. The only delivery system with that capability in 1946 is the B29 because of the huge bulk of "Fat Man" and "Little Boy". He needs to drive the allied army into the sea.

Stalin is only concerned about his personal well being and invading Europe is the best way to keep the distance he needs to feel safe. The only thing holding him back and gaining that space is the impression that you have enough bombs to climb back out of the hole that Europe would become and get into range to take him out. Now he finds out that you only have 10% of what you think you need to do this.

In his mind it's now or never. He has to move before you get those other 63 bullets and he has to put enough innocent lives between you and he to make it morally repugnant for you to use those bullets to get to him in the next room.


- 911dan - 19.11.2009

Well, your logic makes some sense as far as a motive, but Stalin would have to take over more than Western Europe to "put enough distance and innocent people between him and that bomb". There's Norway, Greece, Finland, Turkey available for B-29 and P-47 airfields -- all within range of Moscow. What does USSR have in '46 that can damage US industry?


- Hairog - 19.11.2009

Well right now in 1946 he is within hours of being turned to toast from West Germany. Not days, weeks, months or years. He can do nothing overt without the threat of instant incineration. He is looking right down the barrel of that machine gun with no protection what so ever. Remember how the US reacted to having nukes in Cuba. We were ready to start a nuclear war. What do you think is going through the mind of a paranoid sociopath?

Thank you. You've just given me an idea for why he attacks now. Let's assume that the US decides to base B29 in West Germany to intimidate Stalin and to keep him in line. Much like we did to Japan by putting B17s in the Philippines. Strategic bombers are not defensive or second strike weapons some say that is why Japan attacked when it did. Stalin is no less immune to this logic.

Oh don't worry he will try and take Finland, Norway and Sweden, Greece as well as Turkey.

Speaking of Turkey many historians say the other sociopath Hitler should have given Rommel more support, turned the Mediterranean into an Axis lake, marched through the Balkans and Turkey and gone after the USSR from the oil rich southern route. Guess what Plan Griddle envisions?

Yet how many WWII strategic level games allow you to try this strategy? The only one I've found is Time of Wrath from Matrix games.


- Hairog - 20.11.2009

Chapter 3 The Soft Underbelly

September 7th, 1946
Crimea Map
5 missions
As envisioned in Plan Griddle the NATO bomber force is relocated to Egypt. On this day the first high level bombing mission occurs. The target is the oil production facilities surrounding Sevastopol. The plan is to obliterate by day and night the Soviet Unions ability to produce oil. 70% of the USSR oil supply and refining capacity are located within range of the new B29 bases in Egypt and new long range fighter bases in Turkey, Rhodes and Cyprus. The strategic air war begins.

The first attack is a daylight raid by B29s escorted by YP80 and ME262s. That same night a raid by B17s escorted by P51s and 109Z twin 109 long range fighter. The Soviets are caught off guard but respond quickly with a motley collection of B-6 and ME 163 rocket propelled interceptors, Yak 9Us and La-7s. Enough HE Lerche are scrapped together and along with their wire guided missiles start to prove devastating to the attacking bombers.

The attacks continue day and night.

Oct. 15th, 1946
Sevastopol disappears under an atomic mushroom cloud delivered by a B29.

Oct. 16th, 1946
Kuban map
5 missions
The strategic bombing campaign switches to the Kuban area.

Nov. 20th, 1946
Besberobia map
5 missions
The strategic bombing campaign switches to the Odessa area.

Nov. 26th, 1946
Online map 11a (Turkey) online Italy (Island of Cyprus) Guadalcanal (Rhodes)
5 missions
Soviets counter attack the forward fighter bases in Turkey, Rhodes and Cyprus.


- Hairog - 23.11.2009

I need some feedback or you won't get chapter 4. Big Grin


- Hairog - 24.11.2009

Chapter 4 is pretty interesting.


- Hairog - 30.11.2009

Come on someone must want to know what happens next.