Camera Talk - Mantock - 25.11.2009
Hi all. For some time now ive been looking at IL2 movies ppl have made and i go "wow!" because some people have used really unique and interesting camera angles and stuff in their cinmatics.
my question is, how can you do those camera slides, those smooth pans where you cannot do such things in game. I will cite an example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THAHcxUQakI
In this vid, it also shows small clips of a mosk tower and such, i dont mean those camera angles coz i know they are not IL2. but the plane sequences.
all help GREATLY appreciated (i want to get movie making!!!!! :twisted: :twisted:
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- EoW_WhamO_CO - 25.11.2009
if u read that particular vid's info it says IL2 AND Armed Assault
- Mantock - 25.11.2009
armed assualt? what does that mean? is that another game? yea, i said some parts were not IL2 footage, but that wouldnt change the IL2 footage would it?
- Mantock - 25.11.2009
ahh yes, it says armed assault is a 'game engine'...hmmm. thats a step in the right direction, thx EoW_WhamO_CO
Re: Camera Talk - Doolittle81 - 25.11.2009
Mantock Wrote:...
my question is, how can you do those camera slides, those smooth pans where you cannot do such things in game. I will cite an example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THAHcxUQakI
...
Ask over at the
UBI Movie-Makers Forum and you might get good helpful responses from some of the successful movie-makers.
- Fisneaky - 25.11.2009
You can get smooth pans using track IR with the sensor mounted on a tripod or dolly while you re-record rushes from your .trk file on playback. Tracking friendly or enemy from your camera pov works well.
You can also pan and zoom in Sony Vegas or Final Cut. A hell of a lot easier than using the mouse, and totally smooth. Only drawback is a slight loss of resolution at high zoom.
Camera angles can be altered for "fly by view" in conf.ini. I have a range of values I can paste in.
eg-
[HookViewFly Config]
timeFirstStep=10.2
deltaZ=270.3
deltaY=3.0
deltaX=10.0
or
[HookViewFly Config]
timeFirstStep=6.6
deltaZ=-40.7
deltaY=3.0
deltaX=80.0
experiment with other values for Z and X
+ of course theres the "camera plane " mod and some novel camera angles from the PAT smoke mod.
- Mantock - 25.11.2009
hang on, i made no sense of that, track IR? tripod? (with a tripod are you saying use an external sensor???) hmmm, this stuff sound alot more complex than i thought! im whonder if theres any program or mod that I can use to 'render' animation sequences. Or am i not even in the right ball feild?
- Fisneaky - 25.11.2009
Check out the Ubi forums - as Doolittle suggested.
Google some of the stuff your not familiar with and discover at your leisure.
Things should begin to fall into place then.
Heres a handy site for Audio and video references
http://www.planetoftunes.com/
- Mantock - 26.11.2009
will do then, thx all!
- Wilkes - 27.11.2009
The Ubi Movie Makers forum is about dead. I think Joe Boyd stops by every full moon but not many others. I tried reading through older posts and watch older videos but most of the links are dead as well.
I think this forum is the best thing going now for IL2 movie makers.
Wilkes
- Mantock - 28.11.2009
yea, ive just found basically the same thing. apparently there is a IL2 invisible plane camera that you can use, its a mod here somewhere in AAA. but havnt found it.
- Doolittle81 - 28.11.2009
http://allaircraftsimulations.com/forum/search.php?mode=results
- nuk3m - 29.11.2009
Hi..here's a tutorial that i've made hope it will be useful also check out the other parts and yes that smoth pan it's done using the trak ir OR i u can use a program that works like the mouse by using the keyboard so if bring down the velocity of u keyboard it works great! i will try to find it and give u a link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx2bPTY2HQ4
- Mantock - 29.11.2009
hay nuk3m!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! have I ran across you before? Are you Dneed from the Medieval 2 total war cin ed forums? the voice on the youtube movie you posted sounds the same, i may be wrong though.
yea, thanks for that movie!! I am more interested in trying to get nice pans and camera angles that the actual in game camera positions cannot render for you. I see amazing movies that people make with really cool camera footage of the planes and things.
- nuk3m - 30.11.2009
Mantock Wrote:hay nuk3m!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! have I ran across you before? Are you Dneed from the Medieval 2 total war cin ed forums? the voice on the youtube movie you posted sounds the same, i may be wrong though.
yea, thanks for that movie!! I am more interested in trying to get nice pans and camera angles that the actual in game camera positions cannot render for you. I see amazing movies that people make with really cool camera footage of the planes and things.
yeah that's me..did u ever heard of Adobe after effects? u can do some real good paning with that prg to..i will teach u if u are interested..watch for my movies and ask me what camera angle do u like: il2 movie The eyes of the enemy and battle of Britain il2 movie.