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I made you guys a new flyable! But have 2 problems. - Guest - 29.11.2009

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I broke a rule, I used the He-111H-2's slot. It is supposed to be in a new slot. I need your help getting it in a new slot.


Please don't lock this thread becuase I will remove it and put it in its new slot as soon as you tell me how in this thread.



#2, Some of teh engines as you can see don't work. How do I fix those?


Thanks!

- spitfire13 - 29.11.2009

good job owl what is it Its not a HE111z (see it pays off to make your own mod)

- Guest - 29.11.2009

Its a He-111z using the He-111H-2's FM.


But I am breaking the rules. It really needs a new slot. That and #2 is why I made this thread.

- Guest - 29.11.2009

Nice learning curve.... your going fast.

But I don

- Guest - 29.11.2009

Its already flyable??


Hmm.

Maybe I'l customize it a bit.



Edit:

Yeah I know that s why its not working. How to fix? Smile

- nzwilliam - 29.11.2009

Sorry, I'm a little confused, doesn't the He-111-Z already have a FM since it's already in game as an AI and would just require a cockpit? It looks from your picture that having the He-111-H2 FM means you have only 2 of 5 engines running yet it will still have the performance of an H2. Just a thought, I could be wrong.

- dunkelgrun - 29.11.2009

So all you've done is stuck the existing He111Z into the He111H-2 slot? In other words, you haven't made anything at all yet.

You will need to do a lot of historical research, modelling and coding before anyone will even think of creating a slot for it. (Anyway, it already has one.) This might help you get started:

Quote: The He 111 Z (or "Zwilling") was an interesting, albeit bizarre, joining of two He 111 medium bombers (detailed elsewhere on this site). In an attempt to bring together existing designs to produce a large enough transport capable of towing the Me 321 glider, the He 111 Z was conceived of as such a solution with the intent that a large wing area and five powerplants would be sufficient. Externally, the creation appeared as nothing more than two He 111 airframes joined at a wing with an extra (fifth) engine fitted to the joining structure.

A pair of twin-engine He 111 H-6's served as base conversion models for the new Zwilling design. Two He 111 Z prototypes were then constructed, with the He 111 H-6's joined by a center wing chord structure containing a fifth engine, and the response was good when evaluated by pilots at Rechlin. This was then followed by ten production He 111 Z's. The portside fuselage accommodated the pilot, primary mechanic, gunner and a radio operator/navigator while the starboard fuselage held the co-pilot, secondary mechanic and another gunner bringing the total crew count to seven (the co-pilot could double as a navigator if the situation pressed). The pilot was afforded full instrumentation while the co-pilot was allowed a limited collection of gauges. As such there was no real redundancy to the system as one might expect. The pilot was afforded five throttle levers for complete control over the engines. Control for the radiator flaps was divvied up between the port and starboard cockpits with each man having control of the radiator flaps on his own side. Undercarriage control could be handled by either cockpit. Self-defense was accomplished through a variety of machine gun arrangements mostly centering on 7.7mm MG- and/or 13mm MG-series machine guns and 20mm cannons. Armament varied, however, and was primarily dependent on what the "donor" He 111 H-6 brought along with it.

The engine arrangement was made up of Junkers-brand Jumo 211 F-series 12-cylinder, liquid-cooled, inverted Vee engines of up to 1,340 horsepower each. These engines were fitted into five nacelles, three along the center wing chord and two held outboard on either side. Despite this multi-engined layout, the He 111 Z was still in need of help when attempting to pull a fully-loaded Me 321 glider. This was rectified in the use of rockets for additional thrust (as in "RATO" - Rocket Assisted Take-Off) - not a wholly uncommon sight even at the beginning of the jet age. The Zwilling could, however, maintain flight if any or all of the three central wing cord engines failed. Range could be augmented by four external drop tanks.

By the end of the war, only four He 111 Zwillings were known to exist in operational condition despite some 12 total ultimately produced. The unaccounted for Zwillings were reportedly lost to Allied action while either in the air or still grounded. In any case, the Zwilling proved a limited success to an extent, able to ferry about dozens of injured German soldiers while being able to supply the massive Messerschmitt Me 321 gliders with a much-needed glider tug.

Only the H2 111 Z-1 ever saw any level of quantitative production while the proposed Z-2 long-range bomber and Z-3 long-range reconnaissance aircraft never came to fruition - both variants were based on the Z-1 production model.

Don't forget that you will have to create the first aircraft in Il-2 that allows for two cockpits and two pilots, and even when you've done that you will have to make and assign all the throttles to one cockpit, and create all the extra gauges. I would really like the chance to fly this bird, but not if it's a frankenplane. It has to be historical.

- Guest - 29.11.2009

Yes but the He-111z fm is some were in those 127839739074 (example) files.

There are millions of them.

And they are incrypted. That is what FM editing is about, and I havn't figured that out yet.

- F22-Raptor-2006 - 29.11.2009

-Owl- Wrote:Yes but the He-111z fm is some were in those 127839739074 (example) files.

There are millions of them.

And they are incrypted. That is what FM editing is about, and I havn't figured that out yet.

Seriously, no offence here mate but I very highly doubt anyone will tell you a thing about FM editing. Even slot making is highly unlikely.

- Guest - 29.11.2009

Slot making has to do with Plane_ru right?

- canonuk - 29.11.2009

No.

- F22-Raptor-2006 - 29.11.2009

-Owl- Wrote:Slot making has to do with Plane_ru right?

Good guess but no where near, before u ask it doesn't have anything to do with weapon_ru or air either. They are all to display the aircraft.

- KG64_Ðørvånski - 29.11.2009

You learn thinkgs fast 8)

Jolly made this flyable a while ago, but if there could be a new FM and cockpit it would be good

- Guest - 29.11.2009

Looking back through the "Owl" threads, something does not seem quite straight forward or "kosher" for want of a better word with this person. There is a continual intent to "wind people up", and you are all rising to the bait... every time.

IMHO this is not as it first appears. Anyone else "smell a rat" here.......

GJE52

- Guest - 29.11.2009

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Another flyable with real working weapons.