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After an hour or so the game begins to freeze.... - RAF209_Slick - 06.12.2009

Got a problem. After an hour or so the game begins to freeze. I fly in DirectX. Open GL makes for freezeframes from the get go. I fly with the 1.8UP with the "5" Mods on for Fprgotten Skies and Wings of War. When I get out of the game even other programs like Outlook and Explorer run and refresh very slow. The computer only returns to normal when I reboot it.

When the above problem happens I look at Windows Task Manager and the Page File Usage bar is maxed, even after I am able to kill IL2.

I have:

Celeron CPU 2.53 GHz
1.00 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX440
Windows XP


Any suggestions to help solve this issue would be appreciated. The answer may be a new machine, but I would hate to go that route if a few setting changes would work. Thanks.

S!
Slick

- Fly! - 06.12.2009

possibly video card overheating

- stansdds - 06.12.2009

I had a similar issue years ago with a 6800 Ultra. Getting more air to the video card brought down my temps and the problem disappeared. Yours is an old card, makes me wonder how long it's been since you cleaned the dust and junk out of the heat sink and fan. Dust is a great insulator and will clog heat sinks and fans and render them nearly useless. If you use compressed air to clean, make sure you do not allow the fan to spin as it will generate an electric current that can back-feed to the power supply and motherboard and do some serious damage.

- Thee_oddball - 06.12.2009

this really sounds like a heat issue, open you case and have a look at the heat sink for both the CPU and the VPU and have a look at the power supply and make sure the vents are not clogged, it does not take long for your heat sinks to look like this ,
[Image: dirtyhs.jpg]

S!

- Guest - 06.12.2009

Well a few weeks agao My computer kept freezing and going to a blank screen after like an hour on the computer. It turns out that the fan was faulty and the card was overheating.

- Guest - 07.12.2009

I'd recommend getting a new graphics card. the MX440 was never great in its time, and is practically no good for today's games. pretty much anything on the market will be at least twice as good as that one.

- Paulo Hirth - 07.12.2009

Your must upgrade your computer, is impossible fly IL-2 in perfect settings with that computer, check sites like www.tomshardware.com were you will find comparison charts, my sugestion: Intel e8400, 4GB DDR2 1066 and a GF275, a good machine and good price.

- RAF209_Slick - 07.12.2009

Thanks guys. I will crack open the case and check it out. But I think I will be looking into a new machine soon.

S!
Slick

- Fireskull - 07.12.2009

Yes, I agree with everyone who posted here. Likely overheating is the issue.

Some possible temporary things would be to get a cooling upgrade, increase your page file size, and reduce the demand on your RAM. There are actually many things that can be done to improve how IL-2 will be run in your computer. As a matter of fact, many things can contribute to freezes.

If you get a new computer, try to get one with SLI graphics technology. Go to the Alienware website for a better idea of the kinds of computers, such as with SLI, that will let you turn up all the nice graphics eye candy with good frame rates.

- Thee_oddball - 07.12.2009

RAF209_Slick Wrote:Thanks guys. I will crack open the case and check it out. But I think I will be looking into a new machine soon.

S!
Slick

I just posted this for a freind with an older machine

Quote:here is a decent budeget build if you have an older PC
MOTHERBOARD $50 GIGABYTE GA-G31M-ES2L LGA 775 Intel G31 Micro ATX Intel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813128357
MEMORY 2GB $48.99 G.SKILL 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231121
CPU $64.50 Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819116072
HARDDRIVE $50 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD322HJ 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822152096
PSU $69 $49 AFTER REBATE Antec earthwatts EA500 500W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.0 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817371007
CASE $50 $40 AFTER REBATE XION Solaris XON-403 Black with Green LED Light Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811208009

you can use the onboard video till you buy a nice vid card...at which time you might want to upgrade the PSU as it is only 500watts

here is a video card if you choose to reuse parts from your old machne to save money
$47 (after $20 rebate) Galaxy 95TGE8HUFEXX GeForce 9500 GT 1GB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 HDCP
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814162022
this PSU if you get the video card $39 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817341022

$305 total, can be cheaper if you want to reuse your HD,DVD/CD ROM and case $215


- Fireskull - 08.12.2009

Hi, I just wanted to add a thought to all this.

Oleg Maddox has put a deadline on the release of Storm of War: Battle of Britain, which is late 2010. Perhaps one should consider a very powerful computer to be sure to handle SowBob. There is talk that the new sim will be Muli-core compatible-natively. I don't want to go into all the indicated details about the sim here, but it is safe to say that a nice ingame appearance of it will demand much more from a PC.

I wish you the best in all this.

- skyomish - 08.12.2009

Fire that darn BLUE ink -----> colour blind

- Fireskull - 08.12.2009

skyomish Wrote:Fire that darn BLUE ink -----> colour blind

I know, pal, and I will try to remember to put information in non-blue colors. My signature looks soooo good to me in blue-that has to stay-sorry. Cry

skyomish, give me a Private Message somtime, okay? Take care.

- Thee_oddball - 08.12.2009

Fireskull Wrote:Hi, I just wanted to add a thought to all this.

Oleg Maddox has put a deadline on the release of Storm of War: Battle of Britain, which is late 2010. Perhaps one should consider a very powerful computer to be sure to handle SowBob. There is talk that the new sim will be Muli-core compatible-natively. I don't want to go into all the indicated details about the sim here, but it is safe to say that a nice ingame appearance of it will demand much more from a PC.

I wish you the best in all this.

Very true, but late 2010 is almost a year...and you know what happens in terms of PC tech in a year Smile

BTW Alienware was bought by Dell...im sure thats NOT a good thing

- Fireskull - 14.12.2009

Thee_oddball Wrote:
Fireskull Wrote:Hi, I just wanted to add a thought to all this.

Oleg Maddox has put a deadline on the release of Storm of War: Battle of Britain, which is late 2010. Perhaps one should consider a very powerful computer to be sure to handle SowBob. There is talk that the new sim will be Muli-core compatible-natively. I don't want to go into all the indicated details about the sim here, but it is safe to say that a nice ingame appearance of it will demand much more from a PC.

I wish you the best in all this.

Very true, but late 2010 is almost a year...and you know what happens in terms of PC tech in a year Smile

BTW Alienware was bought by Dell...im sure thats NOT a good thing

Well noted, "oddball'. However, there well be a limit to what anyone can get from any PC running IL-2. I advise a nice PC that one can upgrade in years to come. That is, unless you need the mobility of a laptop-the way I do. There are PCs now that make the most of IL-2 that is possible and will probably handle SoWBoB very well. One must guess the risks verses the costs, I suppose. You know what they say-"We'll see..." :wink: