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Missing German Bombs - Guest - 08.01.2010
I'm here to say that alot of the german bombs during WWII are missing especially the incendiary bombs.
Here is some info I have gathered.
The standard Luftwaffe bombs were:
Armor Piercing/Anti-Armor Bombs
PC 500 Anti-Armor
PC 1000 Anti-Armor
PC 1400 Fritz Anti-Armor
PC 1600 Anti-Armor
PD 500 Armor Piercing
PD 1000 Armor Piercing
SB 1000
SB 1000 Parachute
SB 2500 Heavy Load
Rocket Assisted Armor Piercing Bombs
PC 500 RS Rocket Assisted AP
PC 1000 RS Rocket Assisted AP
PC 1800 RS Rocket Assisted AP
Semi-Armor Piercing Bombs
SD 1 Fragmentation
SD 2 Fragmentation "Butterfly"
SD 4 HL Hollow Charge
SD 10 Fragmentation
SD 10C Anti-Personnel Bomb
SD 50 Fragmentation
SD 70 Fragmentation
SD 250 Fragmentation
SD 500, SD 500 A and SD 500 E Fragmentation
SD 1000 Fragmentation
SD 1700 Fragmentation
General Purpose Bombs
SC 50 Bi General Purpose
SC 50 Grade I General Purpose
SC 50 Grade II General Purpose
SC 250 General Purpose
SC 500 Grade III General Purpose
SC 1000 General Purpose "Herman"
SC 1200 General Purpose
SC 1800 General Purpose "Satan"
SC 2000 General Purpose
SC 2500 General Purpose "MAX"
Incendiaries
B1 Series (1 kg. & 1.3 kg.) Incendiary
B2EZ Incendiary
B2.2EZ Incendiary
Brand 10 Liquid Filled Incendiary
Brand C50 A High-Intensity Incendiary
Brand C50 B High-Intensity Incendiary
Brand C250 High-Intensity Incendiary
FLAM C250 Liquid Incendiary
FLAM KC250 Liquid Incendiary
FLAM 500 Liquid Incendiary
Sprengbrand C 50 Incendiary Bomb
Strbd C500 Anti-Personel Liquid Incendiary Bomb
Concrete and Converted Bombs
SBe 50 Concrete Fragmentation Bomb
SBe 250 Concrete Fragmentation Bomb
SC 10 Concrete Fragmentation Bomb
SD 15 Converted Projectile Bomb
Smoke Bombs, Flares and Markers
NC 50 Smoke Bomb
NC 50 WC ND D/SEE Smoke Bomb
NC 250 S Smoke Bomb
Misc. Bombs
1/2-kg Antipersonnel Parachute Bomb
SD 1 Type Practice Bomb
SD 2 Type Practice Bomb
ZC 10 Concrete Practice Bomb
ZC 50 Concrete Practice Bomb
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The bombs that I guess are mainly needed are the SB2500 or SC2500 and sprengbrand c50 incendiary bomb.
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SC2500 info-
MAX, The Largest German bomb dropped on Britain
![[Image: cid_image001.jpg]](http://www.rafbdhistory.co.uk/cid_image001.jpg)
SC 2500 MAX
Type: General Purpose
Over-all Length: 154.25 in.
Body Length: 94.75 in.
Body Diameter: 32 in.
Wall Thickness: 17/32 in.
Tail Length: 66.5 in.
Tail Width: 33 in.
Filling: Trialen 105; 40/60 Amatol mixture of RDZ, TNT and aluminum
Total Weight: 2,400 kg.
Fuzing: Forward fuze pocket: AZ (24) A.; After Fuze Pocket: E1AZ (28) A.
Color and markings: Sky blue overall. SC 2500 is stenciled on the body
in letters 3 inches high. Two yellow stripes are painted on the body
between the tail fins. A few anti-shipping bombs have been found with
the following stenciled on the body "Bei abwurf auf land nicht im
tiefangriff und nur o.V." (not to be released over land in low level
attack and always without delay). This type is thought to be filled with
Trialen 105.
Construction:
The SC 2500 has an aluminum body with a awelded head and tailpiece.
There are two welded head and tailpiece. There are two welded fuze
pockets. The rear fuze pocket is in the plane of the suspension lug. The
forward pocket is rotated 30 degrees to the right. This pocket is
connected to the nose of the bomb by a tube which extends a break-up
functioning rod. This rod, which is central to the axis of the bomb,
will on distortion of the nose crush the lower section of the (24) fuze
to explode the bomb. A kopfring is welded to the nose.
The tail of the SC 2500 is aluminum and of the drum type.
Suspension:
Horizontal by an H-type lug. A suspension band is placed around bombs to
give a solid base for the suspension lug.
Remarks
The bomb is very similar to the SB 2500. The main difference is that the
SC is made of aluminum while the SB is made of steel. The bomb is filled
through the nose. Because of the rupture-type fuze, bombs cannot be
dropped safe.
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=Jix ... q=&f=false
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Sprengbrand C 50 Incendiary Bomb
Brand C50 A Incendiary Bomb
Over-All Length: 43.2 in.
Body Length: 30.0 in.
Body Diameter: 8.0 in.
Wall Thickness: 1/8 in.
Tail Length: 16 in.
Tail Width: 7.8 in. Total Weight: 90 lbs. Approx.
Filling: Benzine 85%; Phosphorus 4%; Pure Rubber 10%
Weight Of Filling: 30 lbs. Approx.
Charge/Weight Ratio: 33%
Fuzing: (25) B or (28) A
CONSTRUCTION: The bomb body consists of a single piece of steel forging, very similar to the SC 50 grade 1 bomb, with a single fuze pocket located forward in the side of the bomb casing. The tail assembly consists of four sheet metal fins and a tail cone, which is attached to the collar on the base of the bomb body by screws.
SUSPENSION: The bomb may be suspended either horizontally or vertically by means of a single eyebolt.
COLOR AND MARKINGS: The bomb body is painted dark grey or green over-all, with the rear of the bomb painted red and a red band around the centre of the bomb body. The tail assembly may be painted dark grey or grey-green with longitudinal yellow stripes on the tail cone. On those bombs in which the filling is enclosed in glass, a drawing of a glass container is stencilled in red on the bomb body between the fuse and the nose, on the side remote from the fuse.
REMARKS: Later models of this bomb have the phosphorus filling contained in a glass cylinder inside the bomb body.
![[Image: brandc50a-1.jpg]](http://www.atsx91.dsl.pipex.com/images/brandc50a-1.jpg)
http://fishponds.org.uk/luftbri5.html
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We particularly need incendiaries because currently we do not have any german ones apart from AB type bombs which drop bomblets and we need the SC or SB 2500 because then the germans will have a very large bomb and can do greater bombing raids like americans. These bombs were also used in the bombing or britain.
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Well I guess thats it.
- crochebo - 09.01.2010
+SC2500
hock: :lol:Maybe need the plan... 2400kg :roll: He-111 no,, Ar-234 no.
- Guest - 09.01.2010
crochebo Wrote:+SC2500
Maybe need the plan... 2400kg :roll: He-111 no
Cant you see in the two pictures that it is actually on and being used on the He111H :-?
- crochebo - 09.01.2010
Yes a have see, but on the game is 2x SC2000.... my bad :oops:
Che need incendiary bomb for german is great :veryhappy:
- KG64_Cnopicilin - 09.01.2010
It is against the rules to change stock planes FM, so we won't see he-111, ju-88 and others with some of those bombs unless someone makes a new version of them.
- crochebo - 09.01.2010
:newsad:
- Guest - 09.01.2010
KG64_Cnopicilin Wrote:It is against the rules to change stock planes FM, so we won't see he-111, ju-88 and others with some of those bombs unless someone makes a new version of them.
Cant they just copy the entire plane and then just add in the new loadout and call it something else with new slot etc?
- KG64_Cnopicilin - 09.01.2010
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- Guest - 09.01.2010
"They" is the people who will create the mod if this mod goes ahead and someone wants to do it.
Jeez think about it before you post thinks like that.
- KG64_Cnopicilin - 09.01.2010
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- F22-Raptor-2006 - 09.01.2010
KG64_Cnopicilin Wrote:It is against the rules to change stock planes FM, so we won't see he-111, ju-88 and others with some of those bombs unless someone makes a new version of them.
Wrong.............................. eugh
FM - the way the plane flies, fuel load, weight, controls effectiveness etc....
Java Class files - weapons, ammo, what is assigned to this plane such as cockpit, fm etc...
You don't need to alter the FM to get new weapons onto your plane.
- KG64_Cnopicilin - 09.01.2010
F22-Raptor-2006 Wrote:Oh, that's something I didn't know.KG64_Cnopicilin Wrote:It is against the rules to change stock planes FM, so we won't see he-111, ju-88 and others with some of those bombs unless someone makes a new version of them.
Wrong.............................. eugh
FM - the way the plane flies, fuel load, weight, controls effectiveness etc....
Java Class files - weapons, ammo, what is assigned to this plane such as cockpit, fm etc...
You don't need to alter the FM to get new weapons onto your plane.
- Guest - 09.01.2010
F22-Raptor-2006 Wrote:KG64_Cnopicilin Wrote:It is against the rules to change stock planes FM, so we won't see he-111, ju-88 and others with some of those bombs unless someone makes a new version of them.
Wrong.............................. eugh
FM - the way the plane flies, fuel load, weight, controls effectiveness etc....
Java Class files - weapons, ammo, what is assigned to this plane such as cockpit, fm etc...
You don't need to alter the FM to get new weapons onto your plane.
Yes well I was even thinking "um why would you need to make a completely new plane just to add some bombs?"
- F22-Raptor-2006 - 09.01.2010
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I call this 'Danzigzagging' stock plane!!! - walter_solito - 09.01.2010
Hi mate!
Sometimes ago our friends Danzigzag realize 8 different mods that update stock plane model to a more historical loadout!!
He made this modification behind express request of our friend and site guru Mr.Jolly (you can read again his topic for refresh) so this request is in line with this site rules!!!
I think that the real trouble isn't the weapon change at the plane (many planes indeed if all the missing bombs 'll be realized) but the realization of the 3d model of them!!
I hope that our masterpieces makers 'll take care of this new and missing loadout!!!
cheers
walter