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[DIVE BOMBING TUTORIAL] Looking for a good one and complete - mavyalex - 21.03.2010
Hello,
I have a hard time dive bombing with the Stuka and D3A1 using airbrakes.My bombs fall most of the time just next to the target.
And with moving ships it's even harder: i try to aim a little forward to anticipate the ship's trajectory but misses by not much.Do you have to be 100% vertical in a dive (90 degrees) or a little less?
I'm looking for a good tutorial because Iv' been practicing and I still can't get my bombs right on target.
The crucial moment is when to activate the airbrakes and dive. Sometimes I dive too soon and I am not in a perfectly vertical dive. Sometimes I dive too late and I can't catch up.
Also I find the D3AI zooming sight extremely useful for dive bombing. Why didn't Stuka have the same type of magnified zoom?
I haven't tried wit the SBM but I guess the principles are the same.
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UPDATE: There is a new aiming bombsight for the Stuka with the Ultra Pack 2.0? I noticed a kind of moving horizontal bar as I am dive bombing that moves: I guess it is the estimated point of impact? Well this is very useful. It wasn't here before.
But there is none for the D3A1 and SBM. Is there a mod that adds estimated bomb impact for these last 2 planes historically?Or at least for practice.
- Aleksander - 21.03.2010
I think you pull out of the dive too soon. You should pull out well after the bomb is released, because if you release it and pull out immediately, the change of direction affects the bomb.
This worked for me...
- mavyalex - 21.03.2010
Holy crap! Of course you are right! I pull off too early so the bomb is directed somewhere else!
I do this to avoid exposure to AA on the ground and other threats and to gain altitude as fast as possible...Still when I pull up the bomb is already gone. So how could it affect the bomb after being released???
By the way: is it possible ti sink subs with Stuka'as just like ships? Was the Ju-87 or other dive bombers used in that way? I didn't see surfaced subs in Il-2 since a long time...And if obly they could fire torpedoes and sink ships . And if destroyers could drop depth charges and we would see big sea suyrface explosions like in sub movies!
- KG64_Cnopicilin - 21.03.2010
Try coming from behind the ship instead of coming from the side. The are your bomb is going to hit increases about 50 meters!
Re: [DIVE BOMBING TUTORIAL] Looking for a good one and compl - 8FS_Bulau - 21.03.2010
mavyalex Wrote:I have a hard time dive bombing with the Stuka and D3A1 using airbrakes.My bombs fall most of the time just next to the target...Do you have to be 100% vertical in a dive (90 degrees) or a little less?
There is a new aiming bombsight for the Stuka with the Ultra Pack 2.0? I noticed a kind of moving horizontal bar as I am dive bombing that moves: ...
The closer you are to vertical, the more accurate you can be, since you don't have to estimate the downward arc of a bomb which is released from a dive which is not vertical. That said, it's important to have the aircraft in perfect trim (rudder) also during the dive. If out of trim, your gunsight/bombsight is going to be off the actual bomb trajectory.
I have not seen this new sight in the Ju-87, but it sounds like the Stuvi dive bombing sight that is in the Ju-88. The horizontal bar is not an estimate, but a calculated impact point, provided you set up the bombsight correctly, dive at the set airspeed, and release at the set altitude. Its setup and operation is described in the ReadmePF.rtf, which should be in your game folder from the original 4.07m install:
Using the Stuvi gunsight
Before the dive in your Ju-87D-5 (Ju-88 ) you must set your dive airspeed (true) by buttons