question concerning mods and unified installer - RM_Phoenix - 06.05.2010
first let me say HATS OFF to ALL Modders ,after a 4 year absents ,this game is truly becoming the BEST there is ,,, ok here is my question ,all these mods are they picked up by the unified installer ,egxample the map mods ,man what eye candy are they uploaded to the installer and then when i update using unified i get all of these amazing works of art
thx RM-Phoenix
WOW did not know all the discord going on between HSFX and unified , and you are right just tested it and my game crashed luckily the updater repaired it ,it is a shame ,to my way of thinking cause there are SO MANY incredibly talented men and women working to make this the best but back to my question think the answer is no ,so I am thinking that I might have to hand pick and install the masterpieces you all make ,so keep up the outstanding work M8S
- 8FS_Bulau - 07.05.2010
There is no discord between HSFX and UI
Are you mixing up U.I. (Unified Installer), which is AAA mod pack, with UP (UltraPack), which is HaDeS mod pack?
If you have a question about UltraPack's UPUpdate, you really should ask over at their forum.
About HSFX Purpose... - Fireskull - 07.05.2010
A welcome return to you, RM_Phoenix!
The HSFX series of mod packs actually goes back in time a while and the UI (Unified Installer) started to gain wide exceptance in early 2009.
There was a team working on the UI 1.2.5 and had tested it as a beta. Some of these guys I know personally.
Late last year, 2009, communication with several modding communities resulted in almost all the UI content - which includes the UI 1.1, 1.2, and beta 1.2.5 -
included in the HSFX 4.1 mod pack download. Also integrated was a bunch of SAS and SFX stuff and what was then the latest Zuti with the Moving Dogfight setup. The Moving Dogfight feature allow the moving of the battle line as the number of ground forces change which move the line. This adds the need to attack ground forces to the air combat. UltraPack added stuff to the pack and the JSGME Mods Enabler became the basis for adding, switching, and viewing enabled and disabled mods and smaller mod packs. On top of all this were included some nice surprises. The HSFX 4.1 with History Mods enabled is simply awesome! You would get almost three whole columns of maps! ...dozens of maps!
By the way, in my humble opinion, the JSGME Mods Enabler is one of the greatest mods-related creations to ever be united with IL-2. It makes the management of mods quite easy once it is learned. I really appreciate how a user can see exactly what is activated and what is deactivated. Push a button and the switcher handles the mods! The user still must learn how to install mods, but that is easy once you get it. After that, the switcher makes them all clear as they appear in the JSGME Mods Enabler.
The HSFX 4.1 had the potential to be the unifying system for all the major modding communites, but many people jumped on the band wagon ( I don't blame them, only stating the reality ) and installed the UltraPack 2.0 instead of the HSFX 4.1 The UP 2.0 has its strengths and weaknesses just as all mod packs do. It had the capability to switch mods with the Mods Enabler, too, and could be switched to make it compatible with the HSFX 4.1 for online flying.
Ah! The Unified Intaller download was absorbed into the HSFX 4.1, so actually the UI vs HSFX is actually an evolution of creative programs. Unfortunately, HaDes missed the opportunity to be a much more important contributor by neglecting the HSFX unification cause.
HaDes made a bunch of users of the much larger UltraPack 2.0 happy by its release, however at the expense to a large extent of HSFX unification of communities. There are other issues of integrity regarding UltraPack which I will not express here. Unfortunately, the decisions of HaDes and his team has been the largest factor in the resentment by many people in the know at All Aircraft Arcade.
Therefore my conscience is clear and I am happy about using HSFX 4.1
The HSFX 4.1 has a quick loading time - about 45 to 75 seconds for me. I was using the UI 1.2 but have recently begun to do everything with the HSFX 4.1
There is an HSFX 4.11 add-on for the HSFX 4.1 that was recently released with nice things.
The UltraPack 2.0 and the Mega Pack have far more than anyone would experience in years. This suits some people just fine and I don't blame anyone for trying them. One of my biggest criticisms of the UP 2.0 is the increased loading time over the HSFX 4.1, though still better than the UI 1.2 For a guy like me who is best served with a mod pack like HSFX 4.1 which is great for online use, fast loading, and quick handling of mods, the choice is easy to make.
Go "shopping" for a mod pack, though you know my preference. :wink:
Have fun with the whole process! You'll learn a bunch of things as you do.
- RM_Phoenix - 07.05.2010
8FS_Bulau thx for pointing that out yes should have been ultra pack Fireskull thx for taking the time to respond , so much to take in , buttons , maps , not as simple as copy and paste anymore ,this goes here and that goes there and make one mistake and you start from scratch lol ,but am I making a wrong assumption or can I have both HSFX and ultra pack and run it through the ultra pack updater , am wondering how hard it would be to integrate the two and be one big happy family maybe wishful thinking but a thought no less maybe better kept to myself lol all the same thank you Very Much ~S~
Reply to RM_Phoenix - Fireskull - 08.05.2010
Good day,
The UtraPack 2.0 includes very nearly all of the HSFX 4.1 and a switching ability in UP 2.0 allows you to go into compatibility mode for HSFX 4.1, in case you want to join a 4.1 server.
UP 2.0 adds a bunch of things to the HSFX 4.1
I hope that this clarifies it.
- Fireskull - 08.05.2010
By the way, with the JSGME switcher found in HSFX 4.1 and UP 2.0, the adding and switching of mods is actually easier than before this.
Re: About HSFX Purpose... - rahul82ny - 13.06.2010
Fireskull Wrote:The UltraPack 2.0 and the Mega Pack have far more than anyone would experience in years.
A quick question - Is the Mega Pack another mod package like the HSFX and the UltraPack?
Re: question concerning mods and unified installer - Guest - 13.06.2010
The mega-pack.. :-? I've never heard of that before....