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FM Vs Notepad - Guest - 13.06.2010
Is it possible to create a FM in notepad without any of that Java stuff?
Re: FM Vs Notepad - KG64_Cnopicilin - 13.06.2010
No, how are you supposed to do java without java?
Re: FM Vs Notepad - Storebror - 13.06.2010
The FM itself basically has got nothing to do with Java, it's just some kind of encryption being applied to a text file which again basically looks like an "ini" file format wise.
The tools being used to decrypt/encrypt the FM(s) are publicly available in Java Archive format, but they could be made in other ways as well.
Furthermore, there are (unofficial/closed circle) mods out there which enable you to use the unencrypted, plain text FM files, but that's another story again.
Best regards - Mike
Re: FM Vs Notepad - {HVY-E}Jinxx - 13.06.2010
The short answer to your question is 'YES'.
You can write Java code, VB, C# etc using any text editor. Once you've written it, just copy and paste it into the compiler of your choice.
I use Visual Studio 2010 w/ Java.
Re: FM Vs Notepad - Storebror - 13.06.2010
He's been talking about FM creation, not "some" Java classfiles.
{HVY-E}Jinxx Wrote:I use Visual Studio 2010 w/ Java.Which IMHO doesn't create IL-2 compatible Java classfiles at all.
Best regards - Mike
Re: FM Vs Notepad - {HVY-E}Jinxx - 13.06.2010
Storebror Wrote:He's been talking about FM creation, not "some" Java classfiles.
{HVY-E}Jinxx Wrote:I use Visual Studio 2010 w/ Java.Which IMHO doesn't create IL-2 compatible Java classfiles at all.
Best regards - Mike
There's always Eclipse. It's Open Source and works quite well.
Re: FM Vs Notepad - Storebror - 13.06.2010
{HVY-E}Jinxx Wrote:There's always Eclipse. It's Open Source and works quite well.Yes that's true, Eclipse does the trick since it relies on Sun's javac and can be set to generate 1.2 compatible code.
Still not helpful for FMs, and that's what Verhängnis has been asking for, but at least for IL-2 compatible classfiles.
Best regards - Mike
Re: FM Vs Notepad - Guest - 14.06.2010
Ok,cool,well hopefully I can use these replies to some advantage in the future.
Re: FM Vs Notepad - Guest - 15.06.2010
Just for clarification the FM are these files that look like this, or is that a class file and if so what do they do precisely?
294ABC86A89FAEB4
And contain lots of lines like this inside.
xxlockvr)Lock Construction: VatorR Lock Shot Off..
Re: FM Vs Notepad - Guest - 15.06.2010
And will creating the "Hello World" Program help me in creating and help me understand FM's and class files etc?
Re: FM Vs Notepad - KG64_Cnopicilin - 15.06.2010
It's the class file. Buttons file=FM of all planes
Re: FM Vs Notepad - Storebror - 15.06.2010
Verhängnis Wrote:will creating the "Hello World" Program help me in creating and help me understand FM's and class files etc?Yes for sure.
Hopping on one leg while drawing circles in the air with your left ring finger and shouting "father was a modding maniac" will take you to an even higher level.
You're the one telling us that you already modified FMs, checked it offline and want to see how it performs online, right?
See -> Announcements & General Discussions -> General Discussions -> unwelcome discussion topics
As long as you cannot provide any reasonable explanation for what you're doing, I'd rather advise all others
Best regards - Mike
Re: FM Vs Notepad - Guest - 15.06.2010
No what I actually did was , in an experiment swap all the classfiles of the J7W1 with the Ar-196 to see if it worked, and bingo! Flew like a dream, but I obviously couldn't land on water.
And also I need or may not need to know how to edit FM's in future mods, other than that I'll get an expert to do it (Most probable) And just learn(Or not) how to create new slots.
Re: FM Vs Notepad - ArcticViper - 15.06.2010
I can only suggest you let some expert do it. It's not a simple matter of punching in some random numbers and hoping it works on a semi-realistic level...
Granted, there are quite a handful of self-proclaimed experts out there in the community today, however I've found that a solid understanding of aerodynamics is essential to understand what the various entries actually do and what side-effects they might have; and to actually utilize this knowledge for the purpose of making a realistic flightmodel is a massively time consuming process.
Re: FM Vs Notepad - KG64_Cnopicilin - 15.06.2010
Yeah, again one of these. "I know how to make FM! I change one file, don't know what it really does but it's cool."