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Separate brakes for main gear - -)-MAILMAN- - 21.08.2010
Has a mod been made to have separate right and left braking for the main landing gear? It would certainly help when taxiing and especially when running one engine on a multi-engined plane like the P-38 when taxiing.
Below is what I have in my user/settings file in order to enable the use of both brake pedals on my CH Pro Pedals, but as we know this only allows you to use either pedal to operate both brakes not separate left and right brakes.
[HotKey move]
AXE_RX JoystickDevice0=brakes
AXE_RY JoystickDevice0=brakes
AXE_RZ JoystickDevice0=rudder
AXE_U JoystickDevice0=-power
AXE_V JoystickDevice0=pitch
AXE_X JoystickDevice0=aileron
AXE_Y JoystickDevice0=elevator
-)-MAILMAN-
Re: Separate brakes for main gear - 8FS_Bulau - 21.08.2010
You can do it with Mikkowl's Multi-Throttle Program.
Download link in this M4T forum post:
http://mission4today.com/index.php?name ... pic&t=8475
Technically, it's not a mod, since it works with stock game via the DeviceLink interface. Since IL-2 only has on brake axis, and differential braking is achieved by applying rudder at the same time, Mikkowl's programs uses some scripts to do the same thing with separate controller axes. The net effect is just as if IL-2 had separate brake axes, subject to some limitation...i.e. you *must* have rudder centred for it to function.
Re: Separate brakes for main gear - KG64_Cnopicilin - 21.08.2010
Has anyone got it working? I've heard no.
Re: Separate brakes for main gear - 8FS_Bulau - 21.08.2010
Yes, it works great! I'm using it for separate toe brakes. It also works for separate throttle control of multi-engine aircraft.
See my little tutorial here:
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=29249
Re: Separate brakes for main gear - -)-MAILMAN- - 21.08.2010
"The net effect is just as if IL-2 had separate brake axes, subject to some limitation...i.e. you *must* have rudder centred for it to function."
With my CH Pro Pedals I have separate rudder pedals and each has a toe brake.
What happens if you accidentally apply rudder while depressing one of the toe brakes? How sensitive is this?
-)-MAILMAN-
Re: Separate brakes for main gear - -)-MAILMAN- - 21.08.2010
I have no idea how difficult it would be, but I was hoping that this thread might identify whether someone had made a mod for this function or that this thread might plant a seed for someone to create a mod that would actually make it so you could assign an axis to the right brake and a separate axis to the left brake and not have to have rudder input to simulate right and left brakes.
-)-MAILMAN-
Re: Separate brakes for main gear - Lefty Hartnett - 21.08.2010
Hmmm . . . I just hit the brake and turn the rudder right or left to use brakes individually----
Re: Separate brakes for main gear - 8FS_Bulau - 21.08.2010
-)-MAILMAN- Wrote:With my CH Pro Pedals I have separate rudder pedals and each has a toe brake.I have Saitek pedals, same idea, each rudder pedal has a separate toe brake.
What happens if you accidentally apply rudder while depressing one of the toe brakes? How sensitive is this?
So you are not really changing the way IL-2 works, but making it so that it *seems* that way.
If you have any rudder applied, the toe brake function gets cancelled out. I was having problems with this, because the Saitek brake axis is a tilting axis mounted on top of the rudder pedal. So I had to tighten up my pedals to avoid inadvertent rudder movement, and even set a tiny deadzone to help ensure the rudder did not move when using the brake axis.
In practice, it works like this...you're on the ground taxiing, and want to turn left using differential braking...just actuate the left brake axis, and the program applies brakes, and simultaneously applies left rudder. So, it is not really doing anything differently than Lefty describes, just performing one of those actions for you, the rudder movement.
Maybe not exactly what you are after, but maybe the closest thing at the moment.
Re: Separate brakes for main gear - -)-MAILMAN- - 21.08.2010
Lefty Hartnett Wrote:Hmmm . . . I just hit the brake and turn the rudder right or left to use brakes individually----
Well that is the way Oleg designed it, no left or right brake, just brakes and use the rudder to move the tail left or right instead of left brake to stop the left wheel and pivot to the left on it or right brake to stop just the right wheel and pivot around on it. As it is now you cannot taxi a P-38 with only one engine running regardless of throttle or propeller rpm. Without being able to apply a brake to a single wheel to counter the thrust of the running propeller you just turn in a circle even when using full rudder.
-)-MAILMAN-