[Guest]

fly_zo Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject:

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Hot Space wrote:
So can I ask a question m8?

If it seems to be a 'No' for a seperate release for these new planes etc.




its not a no .... just authors need to submit those mods ... the same as with any other mod ,


i remember time before AAA UI and all those requests for "global" mod pack .... one pack to rule them all .... you really can't please all people


reg
Z

If new aircraft are available as a stand-alone add-on for those of us with poor/conections or heavily modded original versions plus the UI version for noobies then you could actually go a long way to pleasing everybody....... or have I missed something here? :?

GJE52

[fly_zo]

To be honest I download 1.1 to get the new planes and was surpised by the 'cockpit goodies' that came with it 8)

Installed into a temp folder and picked just what I wanted 8) 8)

So thanks for the time and effort to put it together - Only took me an hour or so to download it anyway 8) 8)

he,he .... now you've got it m8

exactly what i did/ been doing with UI's .... but i also need latest clean version for testing mods/maps


@GJE52: again , that is on authors of specific mods to decide and submit as regular mod

Z

[Plantoid 1]

My two cents worth:

I'm not advocating anarchy here but when something like this UI comes along and someone says, as was said by Bee in another thread, "The people who created this package have your best interests at heart" I feel like another government bill has been passed.

Where I live our freedoms are being taken away in, to paraphrase the government lackeys who write these bills, "your best interests." I can no longer take resposibility for many of my actions. I have to wear a motorcycle helmet. I have to wear a seat belt. I can no longer smoke where I want to when I want to. Granted, all these are supposedly common sense issues but none the less, if I choose to kill myself slowly or quickly, let me make the damn choice on my own! I'm even willing to pay for the pleasure, but oh, no, I must be saved from myself!

Getting back to the UI install: Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure you will), but two things come to mind. 1) Many planes have been made downloadable individually. Why not the ones in the UI? Please, let me make the choice which plane(s) I choose to install in my game. I'll struggle to install it and be happy when it works. 2) If a host chooses only to allow those with the UI installed then I'm pretty sure a server hosting a game can ascertain whether or not a player has UI and can be stopped if he/she doesn't have it. If this is not the case then perhaps a flag should be inserted into the UI to announce its presence to hosts.

Choice issues aside, there seems to be problems with bandwidth and download speeds. We don't all have cable/DSL; out in the countryside here the only game in town is dial-up. Please don't get me wrong but don't assume that because you have the high speed hookup we all do. Small downloads may be the only choice some folks have or risk leaving their computers to cook away overnight dl'ing something as massive as the UI.

In summary: fly_zo said "i remember time before AAA UI and all those requests for "global" mod pack .... one pack to rule them all .... you really can't please all people." Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but on this issue I think you really can.

Ok, enough of my rant.

Great days all.

[fly_zo]

My two cents worth:

I'm not advocating anarchy here but when something like this UI comes along and someone says, as was said by Bee in another thread, "The people who created this package have your best interests at heart" I feel like another government bill has been passed.

Where I live our freedoms are being taken away in, to paraphrase the government lackeys who write these bills, "your best interests." I can no longer take resposibility for many of my actions. I have to wear a motorcycle helmet. I have to wear a seat belt. I can no longer smoke where I want to when I want to. Granted, all these are supposedly common sense issues but none the less, if I choose to kill myself slowly or quickly, let me make the damn choice on my own! I'm even willing to pay for the pleasure, but oh, no, I must be saved from myself!

Getting back to the UI install: Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure you will), but two things come to mind. 1) Many planes have been made downloadable individually. Why not the ones in the UI? Please, let me make the choice which plane(s) I choose to install in my game. I'll struggle to install it and be happy when it works. 2) If a host chooses only to allow those with the UI installed then I'm pretty sure a server hosting a game can ascertain whether or not a player has UI and can be stopped if he/she doesn't have it. If this is not the case then perhaps a flag should be inserted into the UI to announce its presence to hosts.

Choice issues aside, there seems to be problems with bandwidth and download speeds. We don't all have cable/DSL; out in the countryside here the only game in town is dial-up. Please don't get me wrong but don't assume that because you have the high speed hookup we all do. Small downloads may be the only choice some folks have or risk leaving their computers to cook away overnight dl'ing something as massive as the UI.

In summary: fly_zo said "i remember time before AAA UI and all those requests for "global" mod pack .... one pack to rule them all .... you really can't please all people." Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but on this issue I think you really can.

Ok, enough of my rant.

Great days all.

ok i said it three times and i'll said it again :

authors of mods included in AAA UI 1.1 can publish their mods separately without problem ( if waiting is an issue then outside d/l can get posted in beta section ) ... Its on them to decide to do so ... not on AAA staff

reg
Z

[Plantoid 1]

fly_zo:

Then my rant is directed at them.

Great days all.

[asheshouse]

It would be really really useful to be able to download all new aircraft as separate installs.

I like many don't have a fast broadband connection. It would take for ever to download the new unified installer and I dont need it because my existing setup is working fine.

Well, following Fly_zo's redirection --- please mod makers, it would be really really useful if your mods could be downloaded separately as well as with the UI, especially any new aircraft. Don't worry about fancy auto installers if that takes time. Just package the files in a zip or rar file.

[Guest]

Sorry Fly_zo,

Please accept most humble apologies, I understand what you were saying now.

:oops:

GJE52

[RedChico]

fly_zo, is this a "Community standard online" patch?
Because this is what we need, so that we can have no or minimum stress when playing online.

[Uther]

fly_zo, is this a "Community standard online" patch?
Because this is what we need, so that we can have no or minimum stress when playing online.

There is no community standard online mod install.everyone has their own version.

[fly_zo]

fly_zo, is this a "Community standard online" patch?
Because this is what we need, so that we can have no or minimum stress when playing online.

well, i'm not much of an online player ( Hellzone would know better) but yes i believe AAA UI1.1 is required standard to play online on servers which run AAA UI

reg
Z

[walter_solito]

.......
as new AAA UI brings yet another file structure change ( technics.ini>>>> STD) among other things, upgrading to it will soon be required cos all new mods will get tested on UI 1.1 version
.......

Hi!

I have d/l new UI in about 1 hour (by 7m adsl) w/out trouble!

I think to unzip it in a temp folder for take away only the files that I need so I'm between the two factions and I don't spell about the unique/separate d/l (I'm also so new that I don't know about the 'before UI 1.0 trouble).

I hope anyhow that someone can reply to those question:

Did button file different between UI1.0 and UI1.1?
If I update this file in my folders did it works or can generate CTD?
I have anyhow technics.ini in my STD folders (I got it installing Ship Pack and Tank Pack) , did those file change in structure (and does it mean the need to upgrade it) or only in folder position (and does it mean the need to change only position)?

regards

walter

[ptg]

Chaps, I don't wish to circumvent the desires or otherwise of the authors of these mods, but I too have a rather precious customised installation of mods, so I did extracted the 1.1 to a temp folder and cherry-picked the extra mods. If you find the 'air.ini', 'plane_ru' and 'weapons_ru' in their normal location within the MOD file structure in the temp file, you can easily add the extra planes.

[RedChico]

fly_zo, is this a "Community standard online" patch?
Because this is what we need, so that we can have no or minimum stress when playing online.

There is no community standard online mod install.everyone has their own version.

No, i mean checks to see if everyone has a certain number of planes/mods necessary to play online.

Like Grand Prix Legends, we have 1965/66/69 F1 mods and we 2 programs like HyperLobby, IGOR and VROC, they check the exec's, modified by another program called GEM+ that manages all mods and modfies the original executable for each mod.