A correct Spitfire - finally
#1

My all time favorite aircraft is the spitfire ix.
Regretfully, they are very poorly modelled in-game.
is there any chance to:

a: replace the ugly sturdy carburator intake of the mark ix with the more sophisticated and correct intake of the viii

or

b:
apply a rounded rudder on the mark viii?

My purpose is to have a nice, correct mark ix: nice intake+rounded fin

I have no idea why oleg's crew scr*d up the mark ix, ruining its beauty by that sturdy intake, while they modelled the very same thing nicely on the mk viii...
many thanks in advance!
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#2

The Mk IX modeled in the game is a bit of a hybrid it seems, late in the war Mk IXs started receiving the broad chord rudder and larger carb intake scoop like the Mk VIII. While the game version has the rudder it doesn't have the scoop.

I wonder if it would be possible to combine the nose section and universal wing of the Mk VIII with the rear fuselage of the Seafire to jerry rig a different Mk IX. Of course the ailerons would have to be converted to full span and the tail hook would have to go. It's probably more difficult that that or someone would have done it already! Smile
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#3

PM Japan Cat, he seems to be very good at correcting the mistakes on these aircraft models.
He has done great work correcting the A6M-Zeros and Ki-43s.
You'll fine his work in the beta downloads section.
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#4

You probably already have this but just incase you don't, there's a mod that changes the appearance of the mk ix. It makes the rudder curved and changes the intake scoop to make it an earlier model mark ix. I don't know where to get it on it's own, but I think I got it included with the Biggin Hill campaign. As I said, you probably know about this, but if not it may be of some help to you. Big Grin
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#5

Didn't know that, it's good news. What I'd like to see, however, is a rebuilt Mk IX as in the description above. The present model (and the Mk V/Mk I mod)) is a skinner's nightmare due to the intentional squashing of the rear fuselage texture to wrap around the 3D model. This is not an issue on the Seafire and Spit VIII skins and makes life much easier.
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#6

To my eye the IXs rudder is the main culprit in spoiling the shape. It should not protrude below the lower fuselage line:

[Image: spitail_002.jpg]
[Image: spitgif4.gif]

I think the pointed rudder could look good with a little modification.
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#7

This topic has been around for some time. Apparently a post on an "early Spitfire IX" was closed. See the referrence below for more information, it's "only" a 13 page thread. You might find the thread interesting.

viewtopic.php?t=7428&highlight=early+spitfire
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#8

The early Spit IX project was never closed, it fizzled out because of lack of data and myself being too busy to complete the model. I've since started work on it again but didn't want to start a WIP thread until I was properly ready to save disappointing people. I've also started working on the rudder and a few other bits and pieces to cover the various Mk. IX variants. I happen to think the Mk IX we have in game isn't too bad, it's a nice but slightly dated model which just needs a few refinements to bring it up to scratch.

I'll get a WIP thread started shortly unless somebody else wants to do as I know there are people working on the other marks and I'm not the the speediest of workers (though I do have a lot more time these days).
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#9

Username Wrote:To my eye the IXs rudder is the main culprit in spoiling the shape. It should not protrude below the lower fuselage line:

[Image: spitail_002.jpg]
[Image: spitgif4.gif]

I think the pointed rudder could look good with a little modification.

The rudder and and vertical stabilizer need reworking. The nose is also too short if you look closely at the exhaust stacks and compare with the photo. I spent a week comparing various drawings with as many photos as possible and subsequently put together a layered template of my own that covers most of the Merlin Spitfire marks and is some 400meg in size. I'm reasonably happy with the results of my studies and now I have some good references to work from. For the early Spitfire IX carburettor I had to ask for help over at the Spitfire Site as there are very few sources of reliable info readily available on the net. All this brings it home just how hard it is to accurately model aircraft for this game and also work to deadlines as the original modellers had to.
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#10

Just a start... viewtopic.php?t=17650

[Image: spitixwip.jpg]
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