[FIMacca]

Hi there,

I've been experiencning weird problem. When I run Il-2 with water=0 everything is ok, very high framerates, etc. However, if I change it to anything higher than that - 15 frames or so...

tried warious drivers, nvidia settings, no joy. Ida know what I am doing wrong.

here is my dxdiag


hope someone could help with that issue

best regards

Maciej


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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/10/2009, 17:42:18
Machine name: MACCADESKTOP
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Dodatek Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234)
Language: Polish (Regional Setting: Polish)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: P5Q-PRO
BIOS: BIOS Date: 07/10/08 18:50:41 Ver: 08.00.14
Processor: Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs)
Memory: 3326MB RAM
Page File: 579MB used, 10708MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: The file directx.cpl is a debug version, which will run slower than the retail version.
Display Tab 1: No problems found. DirectDraw test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 7 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 8 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 9 test results: All tests were successful.
Sound Tab 1: The file ctaud2k.sys is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer. DirectSound test results: All tests were successful.
Music Tab: DirectMusic test results: All tests were successful.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found. DirectPlay test results: The tests were cancelled before completing.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GTX 280
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05E1&SUBSYS_82901043&REV_A1
Display Memory: 1024.0 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: HP LP2465CZK82405XX
Monitor Max Res:
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0011.8585 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 5/1/2009 22:02:00, 5896320 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/d
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 5/1/2009 22:02:00, 8055584 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-46A1-11CF-7A52-9BA200C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x05E1
SubSys ID: 0x82901043
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D7 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D8 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D9 Test Result: All tests were successful.

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Sound Devices
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Description: SB X-Fi Audio [EC00]
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_00311102&REV_00
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.1186 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: No
Date and Size: 5/24/2006 05:41:04, 499584 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Creative
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 1, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 128, 126
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 128, 126
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: Yes
EAX™ 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2™ Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura™ ZoomFX™: No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: All tests were successful.

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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: SB X-Fi Audio [EC00]
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.1186 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 5/24/2006 05:41:04, 499584 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x41
Format Flags: 0xFFF

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DirectMusic
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DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: Enabled
Ports: SB X-Fi DMusic Synth [EC00], Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
SB X-Fi Audio [EC00], Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Mapowanie MIDI [Emulowany], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB X-Fi Synth A [EC00] [Emulowany], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB X-Fi Synth B [EC00] [Emulowany], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Syntezator SW Microsoft GS Wave [Emulowany], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Registry: OK
Test Result: All tests were successful.

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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Mysz
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Klawiatura
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Saitek Magic Hotkey Device
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x5081
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: USB Gaming Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC049
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: USB Gaming Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC049
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Saitek X52 Flight Controller
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x0255
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK

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USB Devices
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+ G| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x3A36
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 4/14/2008 01:15:38, 59520 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 4/15/2008 14:00:00, 4736 bytes
|
+-+ Urz| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC312
| | Location: USB Multimedia Keyboard
| | Matching Device ID: usb\class_03&subclass_01
| | Service: HidUsb
| | Driver: hidusb.sys, 4/14/2008 01:15:28, 10368 bytes
| | Driver: hidclass.sys, 4/14/2008 01:15:28, 36864 bytes
| | Driver: hidparse.sys, 4/14/2008 01:15:24, 24960 bytes
| | Driver: hid.dll, 4/15/2008 14:00:00, 20992 bytes
| |
| +-+ Urz| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC312
| | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| | | Service: kbdhid
| | | Driver: kbdhid.sys, 4/14/2008 22:50:10, 14720 bytes
| | | Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/14/2008 22:50:08, 24960 bytes

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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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+ Urz| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 4/14/2008 22:50:10, 14720 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/14/2008 22:50:08, 24960 bytes
|
+ Sterownik klawiatury serwera terminali
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 4/14/2008 23:52:24, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/14/2008 22:50:08, 24960 bytes
|
+ Mysz zgodna z HID
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/14/2008 22:25:10, 23296 bytes
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 10/26/2001 17:57:56, 12160 bytes
|
+ Logitech HID-compliant G5 Laser Mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC049
| Matching Device ID: hid\vid_046d&pid_c049&mi_00
| Upper Filters: LMouFilt
| Lower Filters: LHidFilt
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 10/26/2001 17:57:56, 12160 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/14/2008 22:25:10, 23296 bytes
| Driver: LHidFilt.Sys, 9/26/2008 10:52:00, 35472 bytes
| Driver: LMouFilt.Sys, 9/26/2008 10:53:00, 37392 bytes
| Driver: KHALMNPR.Exe, 10/10/2008 15:46:26, 69632 bytes
| Driver: WdfCoInstaller01005.dll, 6/22/2007 12:34:02, 1419232 bytes
|
+ Sterownik myszy serwera terminali
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 4/14/2008 23:52:24, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/14/2008 22:25:10, 23296 bytes

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DirectPlay Service Providers
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DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)

DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Not run, Half Duplex: Not run, Mic: Not run
DirectPlay Test Result: The tests were cancelled before completing.
Registry: OK

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DirectPlay Adapters
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DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM1
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Po
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DirectPlay Voice Codecs
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Voxware VR12 1,4 kilobit

[{HVY-E}Jinxx]

The DX Diag data is nice and all, but we need to see your Conf.ini and the settings you are using for the Nvidia Control Panel.

My guess is you have something in the Control Panel cranked WAY up. (Anti Alliasing/Ansistrophic Filtering).

[PA_Willy]

With water the problem is not the GPU. Check the CPU, you will see the difference inmediately if you do OC on it.

I know that the water rendering should be done by GPU, but in this game, high water values stress CPU. I have made my own tests with CPU and water values. Changing graphic settings don't change the FPS figure. But, with OC, you get a boost there. Maybe in year 2000 GPU,s weren't so powerful and Oleg set up the water rendering (not the textures) through the CPU,s.

My 2 cents.

[Crosstalker]

With water and an NVIDIA card, the GPU might indeed be the problem. I experienced exactly the same issue while running antialiasing at 16xQ. Try your game with antialiasing set to 8. My game still looks great, and the "water lag" immediately and completely disappeared!

[Roro]

I have the exact same problem since i tried to play around nvidia control panel settings. I uninstalled and reinstalled forcewares without success. The AA @ 8 trick is not working for me. Here is my conf.ini file:
[Render_OpenGL]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=3
TexCompress=2
TexFlags.UseDither=1
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=1
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=1
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=1
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=0
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=1
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1

TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=1
TexFlags.DepthClampNV=1
TexFlags.SeparateSpecular=1
TexFlags.TextureShaderNV=1

HardwareShaders=1

Shadows=2
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
VisibilityDistance=3

Sky=2
Forest=3
LandShading=3
LandDetails=2

LandGeom=3
TexLarge=1
TexLandQual=3
TexLandLarge=1

VideoSetupId=17
Water=4
Effects=2
ForceShaders1x=0

PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.15
PolygonOffsetUnits=-3.0

What do you think?