[RepublicofTexas]

No HSFX 4.1 has Zuti 1.01.

How and where would I put the Zuti 1.1 download anyway?

[skyomish]

Zuti has made a post that the HSFX Zuti MDS will be
out in a short time. It seems that he is busy right now
but it is in the WORKS.
Its goes in the JSGME folder when it comes out.

[RepublicofTexas]

Thx for replies.

The only online server that is semi realistic and I can play in is Warclouds, so lets fill it up!

[skyomish]

UK-2 went 4.09m + mods today you may want to try that one also.

[Guest]

Hey Republic mate!

So I would like to know HERE AND NOW

Are the STOCK PLANES and WEAPONS, FM's or DM being altered in any UP version that may or may not be inherited in this UP 2.0???

thanks

P.S. also, I've read in skiesofvalor forums that monguse said this up2.0 was the last up and was to be followed by the real only mod pack a new version of hsfx, is that true?

Waffen, why don't you go at the UP site and just ASK this question? Is it so hard ? Don't think so. So hear it first hand:
The UP 2.0 has not modified any Stock-Flyable (Oleg-made) plane. The UP 2.0 has not modified any Stock weapons.
We use the vast majority of the HSFX Flight Models for the Former AI planes and many FMs from HSFX for the Player-Made planes.
The B-17 use the SAME FM in both HSFX and UP 2.0

And for your last question. HSFX is not the continuation of UI. UP will NOT be replaced by "HSFX". There will be a NEW Independed version. No HSFX, NO UP, no nothing. It will have many revised stuff, new stuff, revised FMs, etc... There will be a lot of discussion and co-operation. So there will be NO HSFX version. It could be an HSFX switch for use in SEOW campain, nothing more.

And Jolly-Jinx: No need to comment your post, doesn't worth it.

~S~
EDIT: Some history background:

The HSFX community has offered the SFS archives to all major packs. We at UP worked closely with the HSFX team in terms of debugging, suggesting and we developed the new crt=2 check and we also fixed the Netcode. If few words ZUTI fixed the Netcode and made possible to use crt=2 with modded planes with 4.09m which was impossible. The new and more secure crt=2 was aslo developed by ZUTI with suggestions and help mainly from me. Of course the whole UP team helped in debugging and stabilizing it. The UI for unknown reasons did not follow this route. The UI 1.2 published having the obsolete 4.09b as base without the use of the SFS archives. On the contrary, HSFX and UP worked in the entirely New 4.09m overcoming the stability and crt=2 problems. So after the HSFX 4.0 and UP 1.8 release it was obvious that these would become the new standard. We at UP also took over the development of the DF server because HSFX is based on SEOW campaign and uses a modified co-op server. Then you know rthe rest. UI was dropped and the last content of it (mainly new slot planes) was given to HSFX for inclusion in the SFS archives. Then the 4.1 HSFX emerged along with the UP 2.0 which also includes not only a swithcer for HSFX but also a DF server for HSFX, which didn't have until now.
That's it,

[MichaelM]

Jinxx,

Can you post the link to the thread that says/implies/contains "HSFX/AAA by saying that their buttons are "Arcadeish""? Because I would like to chastise any UltraPack Admin/Moderator for making such comments.

Thanks,

[28_Condor]

S!

zuti v1.1 comes with hsfx 4.1

Saburo,

HSFX 4.1 comes with zuti 1.01, not 1.1

I dont know why this version was not realeased for both packs at same time... its so hard do it? :roll:

Well, HSFX team have a beta version for DS that works very fine. The expectation was that was released a week ago, why was not I do not know



Cheers!

[BH_Blue]

Waffen,

I can tell you right now, YES!
UP has altered some stock flight models, damage models and weapons models.

Specifically tested by myself are the heavy bombers. Their engine performance has been lowered drastically while FW 190's have been improved.

I think I will wait until a more credible person in my eyes says this.

[{HVY-E}Jinxx]

Jinxx,

Can you post the link to the thread that says/implies/contains "HSFX/AAA by saying that their buttons are "Arcadeish""? Because I would like to chastise any UltraPack Admin/Moderator for making such comments.

Thanks,

I'll see if I can find it again.

[waffen-79]

Hey Republic mate!
Waffen, why don't you go at the UP site and just ASK this question? Is it so hard ? Don't think so. So hear it first hand:
The UP 2.0 has not modified any Stock-Flyable (Oleg-made) plane. The UP 2.0 has not modified any Stock weapons.
We use the vast majority of the HSFX Flight Models for the Former AI planes and many FMs from HSFX for the Player-Made planes.
The B-17 use the SAME FM in both HSFX and UP 2.0

Thanks for your responce mate, it really is conforting

[Guest]

And Jolly-Jinx: No need to comment your post, doesn't worth it.

patience is the greatest weapon of a wise man

:thumbsup: [rant]

[Monguse]

Patience...

[{HVY-E}Jinxx]

Jinxx,

Can you post the link to the thread that says/implies/contains "HSFX/AAA by saying that their buttons are "Arcadeish""? Because I would like to chastise any UltraPack Admin/Moderator for making such comments.

Thanks,

Check your PM's

S!

[MrJim1979]

Dilemma, all of my favourite servers are using UP 2.0 and I am stuck with MDS v 1.01 which means I can't get in because some half-wit decided not to release 1,1 as a stand-alone for EVERYBODY.

So where can I get version 1.1?

Can somebody email me the file or something please?

[ACE-OF-ACES]

We use the vast majority of the HSFX Flight Models for the Former AI planes and many FMs from HSFX for the Player-Made planes.

vast majority..

many FMs from HSFX..

Can you be a little more specific?

As in which FMs were changed..

And if not too much to ask..

Why they were changed..

And if the answer is 'to make it more accurate'

Can you than provide the real world data that 'more accurate' claim is based on

Note I am assuming the decision to change the FM (to make it more accurate) was actully based on real world data and not just some whim of the guy making the change. In that we all know a 'whim' can contain alot of personal bias. And I am pretty sure that most of us want our FMs based on reality instead of personal bias.

Reason I ask is I want to do a test of each plane that was changed and comparing the orginal HFSX FM and changed UP FM to the real world data to see just which one is actully 'more accurate'

Thanks in advance