[Lo0n]

All Spitfire marks' stall characteristics are a joke!!! Where's the famous judder/stall warning that all pilots talked of?

IMHO Battle of Britain/Wings of Victory II have the flight model off to a tee based on pilots reports-and the stall warning is great!

Rant over

Yup! 8)

There are so many flawed or semi-flawed Fm's in Il-2 i don't know where to start with a rant of my own.

have you tried using forcefeed back joysticks? not got one myself but i think that would cover the judder and stall warning of "that wing"
and flawed or semi flawed in whose opinion. lots of testing has been done by the ubi chartmonkeys, and it's been found that the overall majority of fm's are in the right ball park. some are optimisitic, some are pessimistic, but none are horrendously wrong that i am aware of. the ai planes appear to have had a simplified model, or just lack some features like trim n that, but even the wing snap on the mustangs is something that did happen to some of them prior to strengthening spars in the problem area (think it was something to do with the landing gear?)