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[MOD] AI Mod V.17 *UPDATE*

MrOblongo Wrote:I think the problem with AI gunners is that they seems to be in that they aim to the pilot head...so when they hit, is always a critical part of the plane like engine or pilot. Maybe making the AI gunners to aim to the whole plane...will get the same amount of hits (which i dont think are innacurate) but with less critical parts of the plane being hit.

This isn't a problem for me. Shooting at the engine and cockpit of a fighter is a legitimate tactic and was a basic lesson in gunnery school. Not only are you shooting at "center of mass" of your target, you're also aiming at two of the most vital areas of the plane.

My problem with "sniper" gunners is their accuracy at long ranges, especially if the plane they're riding in is maneuvering. It always annoys me when, say, I get shot up by a Bf110 or IL2 gunner using a pair of hand-held guns at 300+ meters range when I'm attacking from a dive from 5 or 7 o'clock high and my target is turning into me. I believe, that in real life, the gunner would be straining to keep the guns trained on me since he's angling them into the plane's slipstream (where the wind would buffet them) and since he's having to work about the G forces from the turn which would tend to pull him, and his guns, in the opposite direction.

For that matter, when I've tried shooting using various gunner positions, G forces and slipstream effect don't seem to come into play. Also, your guns never jam and you never have to stop to reload. I'd imagine it would be pretty damned tough to manhandle or reload a 20mm cannon in a Betty or a .50 caliber Browning HMG if you're trying to keep your footing at the plane is roling and diving and you've got G forces pushing your gun around. Admittedly, gimbal mounts gave gunners a lot of mechanical advantage and aided accuracy (byt reducing vibrations from the aircraft to the gun), but there are limits.

That said, I'm basically running my mouth. If someone can produce good data from the period showing that gunners were regularly getting hits and kills at 300+ meters, I'll shut up. As it is, it seems to me that bomber gunners sprayed a lot of ammo across the sky for precious few hits.
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