10.03.2009, 20:34
I'd tend to agree with what gadget says as well.
G-LOC - (Loss of consciousness forms the acronym) is the same as blacking out. There are though, as gadget alluded to, two types, sustained and sudden. Sustained g will result in LOC at lower g because of the effect on the body. Sudden g has to be much higher.
G LOC isnt modelled well in Il2, and its made worse by the fact that the AI pilots dont suffer from it, leaving the human pilot at a severe disadvantage.
I've done lots of aeros, and had the grey out effect, though never black out, and it does depend on the day to a certain extent. But I'm not sure how well Il2 can model it anyway. Experience in G straining procedures wasnt common in ww2, physical characteristics of the pilot, fitness and the aircraft you were sitting in would make much more of a difference i think. The aircraft could be modelled, but not really the pilot specific items? (Incidentally gadget, 109 pilots were among the best of the war at resisting g because of the pilots position in the aircraft). Perhaps the best Il2 can do is model the grey out followed by the black out and make it different for different aircraft, though i wouldnt say it was appropriate for different classes of pilot.
By the way zulu - the Zero was stressed to about 12G if I remember correctly. Higher than just about any other combat aircraft in history, higher than the F-16, F-22, or the MiG 29 I believe.
G-LOC - (Loss of consciousness forms the acronym) is the same as blacking out. There are though, as gadget alluded to, two types, sustained and sudden. Sustained g will result in LOC at lower g because of the effect on the body. Sudden g has to be much higher.
G LOC isnt modelled well in Il2, and its made worse by the fact that the AI pilots dont suffer from it, leaving the human pilot at a severe disadvantage.
I've done lots of aeros, and had the grey out effect, though never black out, and it does depend on the day to a certain extent. But I'm not sure how well Il2 can model it anyway. Experience in G straining procedures wasnt common in ww2, physical characteristics of the pilot, fitness and the aircraft you were sitting in would make much more of a difference i think. The aircraft could be modelled, but not really the pilot specific items? (Incidentally gadget, 109 pilots were among the best of the war at resisting g because of the pilots position in the aircraft). Perhaps the best Il2 can do is model the grey out followed by the black out and make it different for different aircraft, though i wouldnt say it was appropriate for different classes of pilot.
By the way zulu - the Zero was stressed to about 12G if I remember correctly. Higher than just about any other combat aircraft in history, higher than the F-16, F-22, or the MiG 29 I believe.