TA-152C Test velocity: Data vs Game.
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TinyTim Wrote:
AIRdomination Wrote:*sigh* Paulo will never give up 8) I've gotten great speed from this bird all the time. Ta-152C is a hard plane to fly, I'm almost certain you're doing something wrong. Because a good couple of us can fly this plane with ease. Its called practice.

Hmm, so, what you are saying is that an A-20C being able to outclimb and outturn a Ta152C is historically accourate?

I get the feeling that if Oleg accidentally switched the flight models of a Ki-27 and a Me-262 there would still be people around who'd advise you to "stop whining and learn to fly".

What we apparently have mate is fellers who make "level speed tests" immediately following a power on dive and then yank the column back for a "initial climb rate" test, then climb back into a P-51 and claim their sheer amazing piloting skills is killing all Axis challengers, and Luft-whiners don't know how to fly like they do.

I just did a standard take off at 75% fuel in the TA strictly following SOP. Full power with MW-50 to 1000m, standard climb regime at 2500-2600u/min (took around ten minutes to make 5000m), ease back to maximum continuous 2300u/min cruise for 5min cooldown, then full military with MW-50 for a medium altitude speed test.
I sincerely wanted the best out of this bird because I still can't believe the FM can be so blatantly and dramatically wrong. I got about 15m/s best initial climb for about 300m close to sea level, quickly dropped to 12m/s to 1000m, then less than 10m/s by 1000m and you have to drop between this figure and 5m/s in order to prevent a power on stall. Nevertheless I had a power on stall at 2500m regardless. It took forever to get to 3000m, IAS this whole time ranging between 260-280km/h at best even though I tried to get it up to 300km/h and hold that as the whole bloody aircraft is ridiculously unstable to handle at any speed and worse at low speed. By 4000m the climb rate holding 10m/s finally managed to nudge 300km/h and I was thrilled but it still took another forever to get to 5000m where I finally levelled off and trimmed for cruise. Well never saw more than 350km/h IAS there and hitting military and WEP took a good three minutes or so to nudge 400 IAS. Obviously the motor was done for, but you'd never know it reading the instrumentation, nothing was amiss. Oil pressure good. Fuel pressure, manifold, rpm all good. Mixture and prop pitch is on the kommandogerat. No overheating light. Some unknown light next to the fuel emergency light has been on since start up, no frickin idea wtf that means.

Right. So I've bought my Il2 1946. I've looked for a TA flight manual in the game there's none. So I've looked it up on the web and finally managed to track down duly referenced SOP. I climb in the TA and run it like it was meant to be run. I have a dog that gets its arse fed to it by Blenheims.

"Oh it's not modelled to be exactly like it was in real life," you say.

Yeah no frickin kidding.

"But I can get all the historical performance out of it."

Yes mate. We all can...
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