[aviatorsneah]

I think that some people have made out of the crash

referring to United 232...crash in Sioux City, IA. actually most people onboard survived. Captain was Al Haynes...I met him once and was a pleasure having him sign my logbook. Although, I think these guys in the DHL airbus had it worse...not only complete loss of hydraulics, but also dealing with a fire, loss of fuel, and impending failure of a wing. Bravo to them!