22.08.2009, 23:34
I don't think you understand my point here, Yes if everybody knew how to make FM's we would have a better game I am sure. Right now some self made FM and Aviation experts are telling the rest of us what to think and do.
I know how to construct a real bird, I have actually worked on several real project, the latest being the Airbus A380, but I am not interested in programming, or FM's of any kind, and most aviation engineers I know aren't either.
And the Modding community lacks professionalism, you can not make a good product without some kind of professionalism, exactly what AAA have been trying to add to the community, but with little success, in my opinion they did not understand that real professionalism also means the freedom to acces knowledge. Im my country, any person, rich and poor have access to knowledge, and we are not a society of chaos, in contrary one of the most well functioning and economical stable nations in the world.
But anyway it's just a game, and besides that, I have personally chosen to leave my Admin status at SAS, as I did not agree with the way they dealt with historical planes. I wanted some kind of rules concerning the FM's, mainly the same as when you write a book, you put in a list list of sources to each new FM concerning a historical plane, then the rest of us can vote with the mouse.
But the future looks bright, and some of us has already begun the work on making MODS for the upcoming new high poly version of the game
, looking forward to that.
I think it's not a game makers responsibility to leave it's sources open, after all it's an commercial product, but there should have been a better way to add new planes than now. But this has nothing to do with control, it's business.
I agree, the question is just who is making the decisions, Right now a few people are deciding what to do, based forums not visible to ordinary subscribers, but who cares, Modding as we know it today will not last for long anyway.
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I know how to construct a real bird, I have actually worked on several real project, the latest being the Airbus A380, but I am not interested in programming, or FM's of any kind, and most aviation engineers I know aren't either.
And the Modding community lacks professionalism, you can not make a good product without some kind of professionalism, exactly what AAA have been trying to add to the community, but with little success, in my opinion they did not understand that real professionalism also means the freedom to acces knowledge. Im my country, any person, rich and poor have access to knowledge, and we are not a society of chaos, in contrary one of the most well functioning and economical stable nations in the world.
But anyway it's just a game, and besides that, I have personally chosen to leave my Admin status at SAS, as I did not agree with the way they dealt with historical planes. I wanted some kind of rules concerning the FM's, mainly the same as when you write a book, you put in a list list of sources to each new FM concerning a historical plane, then the rest of us can vote with the mouse.
But the future looks bright, and some of us has already begun the work on making MODS for the upcoming new high poly version of the game
, looking forward to that.I/JG27_Waggel Wrote:Oleg never gave us any button files or FM's. He never opened IL-2 so that we can work on this game too. Was it to save us or to rule us?
What do you think?
I think it's not a game makers responsibility to leave it's sources open, after all it's an commercial product, but there should have been a better way to add new planes than now. But this has nothing to do with control, it's business.
JG14_Jagr Wrote:MOSCA,
Just out of curiosity, do you fly primarily ONLINE or OFFLINE? Most of the people I see that use primarily AAA Mods fly ONLINE and compatibility is critical. Without it thir ability to join servers and enjoy the game ends. Its not a minor issue..its a show stopper. A common restructured Buttons file/AC installer isn't control, its common sense. It would also not preclude SAS or anyone else from having their own version of a buttons file if they so desired. What it would do is allow for a broader audience to have a much simpler installation path and have far greater online compatibility. Setting common formats and standards allows everything to work more efficiently, with more stability, and with far greater ease of installation..
I agree, the question is just who is making the decisions, Right now a few people are deciding what to do, based forums not visible to ordinary subscribers, but who cares, Modding as we know it today will not last for long anyway.
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