[F22-Raptor-2006]

Okay, I was looking at the new F-86 and MiG-15 mods, and I realised the Bae Hawk jet trainer used by the RAF Red Arrows display team has a fairly similar flight envelope, IE sub-Mach 1 top speed and no thrust vectoring or other features that might be beyond the scope of the Il2 engine in its current form. So, it seems possible to me at least that this plane could be made and introduced to this game, the only new feature that would need to be made would be the HUD, and since this is not a system used for air-to-air or air-to-ground combat, it could possibly be faked using a large partially clear, partially coloured texture of the kind used for gunsights, but linked to the pitch/roll indicator.

If anyone is interested then this does seem to be the kind of project that while it wouldn't really add anything to the WWII flightsim part of Il2, it would be a very interesting and different kind of aircraft to model, and one that a lot of people would enjoy.

Yeah putting in a hawk in = no I don't think it's quite right. Gets to mach 1.2 and the red arrows ones also have modified engines that are uprated. Also they are combat ready planes that can be used if there was an emergency. Yeah I know you could just put a Empty loadout only but also the time and dedication it takes to get one plane from scratch into il2 finished product is so much that a modder would much rather pick a more relevant to IL-2 game plane. Also the Hawk's avionic systems are way above what you have in IL2, after all it is an advanced jet trainer.

Since the possibility of the Hawk being in this game is very unlikely you could always take an F-86 and use it instead of the Hawk. Perhaps an F-86F would be more accurate FM wise to the Hawk but the F-86A-5 does look similar to the Hawk and can get over mach 1 in game which would equal around about what the Hawk does with the exception that the engine may be less responsive than a real life hawk.

Anyway if you do want a Red Arrows F-86 I have done skins for them already and can be found on this thread along with other skins:

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