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The only valide test is the test from a real pilot ....

WRT IL2: A lot of people who use IL2Compare will disagree with you
WRT RL: All the real world test data I used to compare your F86 to was derived from flight tests by real pilots.

The virtual world of il2 is not the same as the real world , some guys don t want to understand that and it s impossible to talk ....

I don't know of anyone here that does not understand that..

In that I have said more than once

No flight sim was, is, or ever will be perfect (read same as real world)

The curves can t say if a fm is good or not

Disagree 100%

, the only way is to take the real spec and to fly the plane in the simulation to see if it s good and to let the stick to a real pilot ....

Wait a min..

Isn't that the way you and yours (all 15 or so of you) did with your 'team testing'

And yet the ROC bug was not found using your 'team test' method..

It wasn't until I using the INFOMOD that presents data based on real world test methods..

Along with my 'formal' real world test methods (read NASA methods) that the ROC bug/error was found/confirmed.

After which you announced you would be 'changing' the FM.

Just to highlight how poor your test methods are..

I will ask you what I asked you 10 or so pages ago..

How do you validate your FMs?

As in what is your 'test method'?

IMHO your lack of response to that question speaks volumes as to how poor your test method is..

Assuming you did any at all!

In light of the 35% error in ROC

That even a half-arse test would have reviled

I think it is clear that you have no test method!

Certainly not a repeatable one! (read non scientific method)

Oh sure Ill bet you have plenty of track files of you shooting down one of your team mates in an online in a DF mission with 3 or 4 others buzzing around..

But anyone that knows anything about flight performance testing knows that says something about the pilot skill/luck and nothing about how accurate the plane performance is..

But don't let that stop you!

Keep on making your FMs!

In that some folks here not only enjoy Quake flight sims..

But some need the edge/advantage they get from a F-86 with an X-Wing FM to get a kill!

I am just not one of them.

Maybe you ll find a perfect curve somewhere , but not sure a real pilot will say that the FM is realistic .... :wink:
Why ? Because the curves in IL2 don t give you the real FM !!!

Disagree 100% still

You can say it any way you like..

You can repeat it as many times as you like..

But

It will not change the FACT that real pilots look at such curves to determine the performance of real plane..
Nor will it change the FACT that real pilots look at such curves to determine the accuracy of the simulation of a real plane..

Nice try though!

Gold star for effort!