For the God's of Mods! Possible to ever have or make a B-26?
#16

Guys I am so with you on the need for the B26.

Not only was it numerically important, but it served in key roles in all Allied theatres of Operation.
So it was difficult to fly you say? Bring it on.

To specify what Shak said, according to "The Hamlyn Concise Guide to American Aircraft of World War 2", my nearest at hand reference, "it was later to have the lowest attrition rate of any American aircraft operated by the US 9th Air Force in Europe".

Early models did have problems for new pilots. Small wing area (and thus high wing loading), as well as the extreme aerodynamic fuselage (so designed to meet exacting performance specifications) caused poor low speed handling, and so required high landing speed (around 100mph).
According to this source, the first operational B26 unit was the 22nd Bombardment Group, dispatched to Northern Australia where they began operations in April 1942, equipped with B26As (139 built).

Next active deployment was with the RAF (B26As designated Marauder Is by the RAF) to No. 14 Sqdn RAF in the Middle East.

Because of the handling difficulties, production of the B26A had been suspended, but following the incorporation of new design features including more powerful R2800 1,920 hp engines, slotted trailing edge flaps, a lengthened nose wheel strut to increase takeoff and landing angles of incidence, and an increase in the height of the vertical stabilizer and rudder, production of the B26B (1,883 constructed) began in May 1942.
The board of inquiry had also recommended an increase in wing surface area, and although this was incorporated into the B26B, performance was unimproved as the USAAF promptly upped the gross weight of the aircraft.
Although wingloading is usually mentioned as the problem of the early models, in fact the wing loads of various runs were : B26A 53.16 lbs/sq ft, early B26B 56.48 lbs/sq ft, later B26B/C 58.05 lbs/sq ft, indicating that pilot experience with a differently handling aircraft was more probably the problem.

The B26C was essentially the same airplane, simply coming out of another production facility at Omaha, Nebraska(1,235 built).

Final production versions were the B26F (300 built) and B26G (893 built), with the major design difference being in the increased angle of wing incidence by 3degrees30'.

Deployment for the B26B and C for the USAAF began in North Africa in November 1942, assigned to the 319th and 320th Bombardment Groups of the 12th AF.
It is interesting to note that the only operation by B26s for the 8th Airforce in Europe was a disaster, with an entire squadron(11 aircraft) lost on one operation, whereafter all B26s allocated to the USAAF in Europe went to the 9th Air Force.
Others went as Lend Lease to the RAF (who recived a total of 522, various models among B26B (Marauder IA) B26C (Marauder II) and B26F/G (Marauder III), and used them extensively in the Mediterranean and Middle East.

All in all a needed and important aircraft.
If some of you clever folks would take this on, it would be marvellous.

I have a challenge to throw out to you modders...

How about making this an all original aircraft from cockpit to gunners stations? Clearly it REQUIRES a different FM, as no other bomber so far in the system (correct me if I'm wrong) shares its flight characteristics. Besides, it's the differences between the behaviour of the aircraft that makes them interesting, no?
I know you guys have the talent - all we need is motivation and some coordination. I am proposing that a design team for the B26 gets put together, with the initial goal of producing 2 versions B26B/C and B26F/G, with the possibility of further developing the B26A at a later date.
I have no CG skills, but would be willing to collate materials, and collect what references we can, and attempt to coordinate schedules and such.
Any takers out there contact me.

The widowmaker must fly.

vonKopfdorfer
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#17

Kopfdorfer Wrote:I have a challenge to throw out to you modders...

How about making this an all original aircraft from cockpit to gunners stations? Clearly it REQUIRES a different FM, as no other bomber so far in the system (correct me if I'm wrong) shares its flight characteristics. Besides, it's the differences between the behaviour of the aircraft that makes them interesting, no?
I know you guys have the talent - all we need is motivation and some coordination. I am proposing that a design team for the B26 gets put together, with the initial goal of producing 2 versions B26B/C and B26F/G, with the possibility of further developing the B26A at a later date.
I have no CG skills, but would be willing to collate materials, and collect what references we can, and attempt to coordinate schedules and such.
Any takers out there contact me.

The widowmaker must fly.

vonKopfdorfer

Ok. You have my interest here. I know someone else is already taking strides to secure the A-26 for the game, so I will take up the slack with the B-26 Marauder.

PM through to ME EVERY once of data you can collate for this beast, EMAIL me as much images as possible - detailed images. Of main interest is of the 3-View type.

For now, we will however focus on a SINGLE model variant. Most likely, as you said, the B/C or the F/G variant for now, we can alter it later on.

As a side note, Kopfdorfer and others, you will be rather happy to know that the projects being produced by the AAA Mod Team are going to most likely always include new cockpits etc etc. Take the Lancaster or Whirlwind - both will have their own unique pits... So I wouldn't stress about it.

Jut remember, that at the moment this is is research phase, and if you want to see this happen please, by all means; supply your data in the ABOVE method, do NOT post in this thread.
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#18

RAF_Magpie Wrote:Ok. You have my interest here.

damnit magpie, whats it gonna take to get you interested in my stearman???


Big Grin


fantastic news on you being interested in the B-26 though. It'd be a real treat to have her in the game.

[Image: photo_flak_bait_2.jpg]

the only pic i swear
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#19

The A-26 could be adapted from the A-20 couldn't it? At least they look pretty similar.....
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#20

I'm supporting u in this Kopf - fully...

The B-26 is a must, so bring it on!
Without a doubt, the best looking bomber of wwII!!!
(I clearly remember that 1/72 scale modelkit of the B-26 marauder by matchbox - I loved it at first sight and bought it again and again over the years)


DK-nme
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#21

I remember seeing a free add on to MFS9 for the Marauder in my research, but I have no idea if that model can be extricated, let alone adapted for IL-2. I passed it on to Magpie but don't know if that is even possible. I thought at least it would be a starting point.
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#22

I would be more than happy to help with making a template and some skins for this B-26.

:-D
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#23

Triad773 Wrote:I remember seeing a free add on to MFS9 for the Marauder in my research, but I have no idea if that model can be extricated, let alone adapted for IL-2. I passed it on to Magpie but don't know if that is even possible. I thought at least it would be a starting point.

Not really but thanks anyway, the rest of the info passed on was handy.

If you can please copy the info across to the PM as well as giving us the links, it makes the entire process easier to collate; and sort out repetitive data.

Please keep it coming. As with the other projects, anyone with a strong desire to see this aircraft come to fruition, and willing to put in the hard yards please contact ME, and we'll set you to work.
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#24

100% agreed for B-26!
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#25

You have email Wink Link coming soon for video Wink

Cheers, MP.
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#26

Also check your PM, I think you will like what's inside
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#27

RAF_Magpie Wrote:[Ok. You have my interest here. I know someone else is already taking strides to secure the A-26 for the game, so I will take up the slack with the B-26 Marauder.

Bump for the Marauder.

Are you getting the research materials you need Magpie? I'll help in any way I can.
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#28

Any update Magpie?

Hope the DVD and plans helped?

Any info. please?

Cheers, MP.
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#29

Mysticpuma Wrote:Any update Magpie?

Hope the DVD and plans helped?

Any info. please?

Cheers, MP.

Hi Mystic,

We've made a considerable start a wee while ago, she's on the operating table, along with the Whirlwind and the SM.79. There's been a bit of a hiatus the last couple of weeks whilst we finish off one of the projects.

However, disaster struck a couple of days ago when my main hard drive, containing my windows install, went poof. So right this minute I'm awaiting a brand spankin new 1TB HDD SATA II to arrive... Stupid NZ courier services...

Anyway, the plan was to up some WIP shots over the next fortnight - so stand by and you'll be pleasantly surprised I thinks...

Smile
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#30

EXCELLENT Magpie!

Can't wait 8)

Thanks Big Grin
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