Engine Flame... Is this real???
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#2

Hell yes

I have seen it all the time at near by airport which houses a flyable P51D 25
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#3

Good find !!!
barbeque time !!! want to have flame like this ?? Big Grin
A lot of engine flame pictures are looking almost exactly the same as this one .
There is sure some similarity , one of the known old pictures with good flame is with spitfire .
Can't find it right now :lol:
That's the real flame as it should supposed to be looking in IL2 and thus far is not Tongue
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I saw a video not that long ago around here somewhere that showed a P-51 starting and it was doing the same thing. I also thought, "that would be cool to model for the game".
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I think what this is is the little short pipe fills with gas in the startup because of the rich mixture and because the exhaust pipes are so short the flames just happen. I'm sure the same thing happens to a car engine but because the manifold and the exhaust system is so much longer you'd never see it. From what I've seen this usually happens right at startup when the engine doesn't quite catch and start. Awesome picture Air...
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Absolutely real! I used to be an Air Craft Mechanic that stuff happens all the time. Now should he let it burn out? Be sure to lean the mixture, place the throttle in idle cut off, Shut off fuel cock (it should be there) and cycle the starter a couple of blades. It will go out. Better yet, KNOW the manufactures recomendations for this condition and correct it their way The fuel is not burning all the way and its in the exahust stacks. It could be a number of things. Radials are famous for lighting up.
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I thought so Big Grin I love how in the P-40 the fire matches the paintscheme :lol:
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AIRdomination Wrote:I thought so Big Grin I love how in the P-40 the fire matches the paintscheme :lol:

It does! it looks like a really pissed off Carrot Top :lol:
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RRuger Wrote:
AIRdomination Wrote:I thought so Big Grin I love how in the P-40 the fire matches the paintscheme :lol:

It does! it looks like a really pissed off Carrot Top :lol:

..or the shark head is about to explode :lol: :lol: :lol:
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db605-A/S Wrote:Absolutely real! I used to be an Air Craft Mechanic that stuff happens all the time. Now should he let it burn out? Be sure to lean the mixture, place the throttle in idle cut off, Shut off fuel cock (it should be there) and cycle the starter a couple of blades. It will go out. Better yet, KNOW the manufactures recomendations for this condition and correct it their way The fuel is not burning all the way and its in the exahust stacks. It could be a number of things. Radials are famous for lighting up.

These aren't engine fires though. They are due to the very rich mixtures that are run, the fuel being pumped into the cylinders before engine start, and are a common part of the start up sequence. The fuel is still burning when the exhaust stroke starts and is pushed into the exhaust. On the aircraft with longer exhaust stacks such as the radials you generally just see a puff of smoke on start up. But its due to the same thing.

Engine Fires are caused generally by excess priming, which causes large amounts of fuel to pool in the carburetor intake. This fuel can then ignite if the engine backfires. The reason most Pilot Operating Handbooks recommend that you keep trying to start the engine after the fire is noticed is because this puts the fire out by pulling the flames back into the engine.
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#13

what would really be nice is blue flames coming out of the exhaust....something like the jets have out of the exhaust.........WRA
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Hey fly, is it possible to make it less transparent? Tongue
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db605-A/S Wrote:Absolutely real! I used to be an Air Craft Mechanic that stuff happens all the time. Now should he let it burn out? Be sure to lean the mixture, place the throttle in idle cut off, Shut off fuel cock (it should be there) and cycle the starter a couple of blades. It will go out. Better yet, KNOW the manufactures recomendations for this condition and correct it their way The fuel is not burning all the way and its in the exahust stacks. It could be a number of things. Radials are famous for lighting up.

Idle cutoff is a function of the mixture control not the throttle. This typically happens on start up if you are overly energetic with the primer as it puts too much raw fuel into the exhaust manifolds.
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